BLUE & RED LIGHTS FINALLY MAKE THEIR WAY TO ONTARIO!

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BLUE & RED LIGHTS FINALLY MAKE THEIR WAY TO ONTARIO!

Postby Respond Wayne » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:34 pm

Roof lights changing from white to blue
Move will increase visibility and cut down on roadside accidents, advocates say
ALAN CAIRNS

Special to The Globe and Mail

Police cruisers across Ontario will make traffic stops safer and "catch up with the rest of the world" with the decision to change their roof-mounted emergency lights to flash red and blue -- instead of red and white -- say two Toronto-area officers who made the case for change.

Premier Dalton McGuinty unveiled the planned changes yesterday along with a package of proposed road safety legislation targeting drunk drivers and street racers.

The move to blue light embraces a Peel Regional Police initiative, which suggests that the inclusion of flashing blue lights greatly increases the visibility of roadside emergency vehicles and causes drivers to give them a wide berth, particularly at night.

One reason is simple science: The human eye sees blue more brightly at night. Then there's the contrast with the tail lights of other vehicles.

"When it comes to the road in Ontario, all you see is a virtual ribbon of red lights going away from you and white lights coming toward you," said Constable Gary Carty, who worked on the Peel study with Constable Ken Wright.

"The common perspective is that the flashing light draws people toward it, in the same way that a moth is drawn to a flame. The reality is that it is due to perception delay. People do not see the warning until they are right on top of it," Constable Carty said.

If using the blue light is best practice, then Ontario is still in the dark.

The RCMP, all other Canadian provinces, members of the European Union, all 50 American states and all but a handful of the remaining world nations use emergency blue lighting in police cruisers, Constable Carty said.

Of 200 Peel police cruiser crashes last year, 18 involved rear-end roadside accidents.

Ontario Chief Coroner James Cairns said statistics suggest that the colour change will greatly reduce the number of officers who are killed or seriously injured during routine roadside traffic stops.

Citing selected figures, Constable Wright said that 16 of 25 officer fatalities in 1994 were traffic-related, many of them incidents.

"There is more danger to police officers at the side of the road than in any other place within the scope of our duty," he said.

When Constable Wright looked at Sûreté de Quebec cruiser accident statistics, he found that only 3.75 per cent of their accidents involved stopped police vehicles. He chose the Sûreté because its policies governing road stops are identical to Peel's.

"And the only difference is that they have blue lights and we don't," he said.

Constable Wright, a 25-year police veteran, said he began wondering a few years ago why police cars across Ontario still used red and white flashing lights.

Existing Ontario law bans blue lights from being used on anything but snow plows and snow-removal vehicles.

But two key ministers in Mr. McGuinty's government -- Transportation Minister Donna Cansfield and Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services Monte Kwinter -- have embraced the suggestion to give police cruisers an exemption.

The best part of the plan, Constables Carty and Wright said, is that it will not put Ontario police services, well, in the red.

Police services across Ontario are already in the process of replacing rooftop lighting bars that use power-sucking halogen bulbs with state-of-the-art LED lights, which require about one-fifth the energy. There is no extra cost, the pair noted, to install flashing blue LED instead of flashing white LED lights.
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Postby echo1 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:47 pm

So what's the time line?

Though I do recall at a Peel ride I encountered this winter one of their Chargers had red and blues, a test vehicle I guess.

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Postby Dave Jenkins » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:36 pm

From the Office of the Premier site

http://www.premier.gov.on.ca/news/Produ ... uctID=1134

Just supports the article in Wayne's post regarding blue/red police lights.
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Postby Respond Wayne » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:10 pm

Good to see I have the Premier's support! 8)

So, does the OPP have some deal to swap out a few Red LEDs for Blue? :ponder:
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Postby CourtOfficer » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:19 pm

:crazy: Those are some scientific studies they conducted. :roll: Police cars light up like Christmas trees. No matter what colour the lights are, people shouldn't have any trouble seeing them.

What next, mauve uniform shirts for their calming effect?

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Postby T.M.DIESEL » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:25 pm

CourtOfficer wrote::crazy: Those are some scientific studies they conducted. :roll: Police cars light up like Christmas trees. No matter what colour the lights are, people shouldn't have any trouble seeing them.

What next, mauve uniform shirts for their calming effect?

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We all know Pink is the best calming colour. And you are right, the lights now a days could be clear and should be well seen from far away. Do not blame the lights, blame the drivers of the world.
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Postby Respond Wayne » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:26 pm

CourtOfficer wrote:...What next, mauve uniform shirts for their calming effect?


Okay MLEO! :P
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Postby Dave Jenkins » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:29 am

CourtOfficer wrote::crazy: Those are some scientific studies they conducted. :roll: Police cars light up like Christmas trees. No matter what colour the lights are, people shouldn't have any trouble seeing them.

What next, mauve uniform shirts for their calming effect?

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Seems you have been doing a little research of you own there CO! You seem to know about the "mauve" influence. ;)

http://www.littlemonkeymurals.com/Coloursmood.htm


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In the grand scheme of things vehicle colours and light colours are going to change like the wind. The worth of these changes are likely the sum of four fifths of the standard F---all unit. :roll:
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Postby Bald Man » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:53 pm

Does this mean all snow plows and snow removal fehicles will be changing to amber?

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Postby Dave Jenkins » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:06 pm

Bald Man wrote:Does this mean all snow plows and snow removal fehicles will be changing to amber?


I don’t know about whether or not that is in the works but as I’ve mentioned before here in Hamilton all city’s new snow removal equipment seems to have blue/amber lighting combinations on the rear of the vehicles. So it may be that they will have blue/amber and at some point phase out the blue.

With this change I’m wondering, joking about aside, and without getting into an HTA debate, if U of T (St. George) and Carleton switch back to all red once this police blue/red thing kicks in.

It seems funny how only a short while ago we were joking about B & W cruisers and blue/red lights on police vehicles coming to Ontario and here we are seeing it actually happening. :shock: Wonder what is next?
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Postby mostlyharmless » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:15 pm

Welcome to the red blue lifestyle. Here in AB, security and snowplows have yellow. You need a special permit from the SolGen's office for any other colour.
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Postby CourtOfficer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:56 pm

Bald Man wrote:Does this mean all snow plows and snow removal fehicles will be changing to amber?


I doubt it. They said there was going to be an "exception" added to the HTA so Police could use blue lights.

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Postby Bald Man » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:33 pm

CourtOfficer wrote:
Bald Man wrote:Does this mean all snow plows and snow removal fehicles will be changing to amber?


I doubt it. They said there was going to be an "exception" added to the HTA so Police could use blue lights.

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That's what I thought. Doesn't make any sense to me then. They should then require all snow plows ,like any other service vehicle, to have amber lights and reserve blue for police only. Maybe over time we will see this change.

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Postby Bald Man » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:44 pm

Is there a time line that all police services must be switched over to the blue?

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Postby ellis1919 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:12 pm

Welcome to the red blue lifestyle. Here in AB, security and snowplows have yellow. You need a special permit from the SolGen's office for any other colour.


Actually in Alberta snowplows use amber AND red flashing strobes[/quote]
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