GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby cbmcmsa » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:07 am

A North wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:32 pm
I just got bounced from my application process for not having a full G licence, which was NEVER a requirement when I applied, even though they're claiming it always was! They told me to apply to the next posting but there hasn't been a posting in a year if not more and I've already been waiting almost a year for an interview with zero communication from them...am I going to be waiting ANOTHER year after whatever supposed process opens up? Has this happened to anybody else here?

For the record I also literally passed my G road test today but they wouldn't hear it at all.
Is a G license just the Ontario equivalent of a full graduated license with no restrictions? In Manitoba that's a class 5 license (the one everyone applies for), and from start to finish it's 5 years on the Graduated Driver's Licensing Program to have a full 5F (unrestricted) Driver's license.

To the best of my knowledge, most applications like this (Law Enforcement) require a full license, not intermediate or beginner or whatever your provincial equivalent is. Tough news for you, but not surprising. These processes generally are quite stringent on applicants meeting the minimum COEs. The SBSO position is the one that doesn't require a full unrestricted, and I know you were applying for both, so you may have gotten your wires crossed. Regardless, best of luck in the future!
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Boxto » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 am

Hello everybody

I'm getting close to the end of the process...I have to do the oral test (sle) and the medical exam.

I will have a surgery in may 2020, with a 6-8 weeks recovery..this bring me to august...the timing is not what I expected... question for those who can answer..can I delay my admission if i'm still under recovery? Or can I be part of the August intake with a 2-3 weeks medical ticket? it would be sad to delay the process by 5 months...


From what I know, there will be a bilingual intake in..August and...January, right?

Thanks..
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OTEE: October 18 pass
Interview: April 19 pass
RPAL : June 19 pass
Psy Eval: July 19 - pass
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SLE (writ/Read) Feb 20 pass

SLE (oral) tbd
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby cbmcmsa » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:40 am

Boxto wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 am
Hello everybody

I'm getting close to the end of the process...I have to do the oral test (sle) and the medical exam.

I will have a surgery in may 2020, with a 6-8 weeks recovery..this bring me to august...the timing is not what I expected... question for those who can answer..can I delay my admission if i'm still under recovery? Or can I be part of the August intake with a 2-3 weeks medical ticket? it would be sad to delay the process by 5 months...


From what I know, there will be a bilingual intake in..August and...January, right?

Thanks..
No one on here can accurately answer this, email recruitment.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Jumb34t » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:36 am

Got the email yesterday telling me to book my CATIII appointment (wohoo!). Just wondering, is there suppose to be a time limit on when I should book this appointment? Also, the form that I'm suppose to bring with me, do I get that after emailing them when my appointment is going to be?
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby oceanblue11 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:34 pm

cbmcmsa wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:40 am
Boxto wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 am
Hello everybody

I'm getting close to the end of the process...I have to do the oral test (sle) and the medical exam.

I will have a surgery in may 2020, with a 6-8 weeks recovery..this bring me to august...the timing is not what I expected... question for those who can answer..can I delay my admission if i'm still under recovery? Or can I be part of the August intake with a 2-3 weeks medical ticket? it would be sad to delay the process by 5 months...


From what I know, there will be a bilingual intake in..August and...January, right?

Thanks..
No one on here can accurately answer this, email recruitment.
I can partially answer it, once they send you the official invite for OITP you’ll see that there’s an option to request an alternate date. It says you need to have a medical/doctor’s certificate for proof. So I interpreted that as your request is only approved if you have proof, but I’m not sure if they’ll let you attend while you’re at the end of your recovery considering that your full recovery can’t be guaranteed. I’m pretty sure we have to do the fitness tests and PARE in the first week or two as well.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hsinom » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:43 pm

Jumb34t wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:36 am
Got the email yesterday telling me to book my CATIII appointment (wohoo!). Just wondering, is there suppose to be a time limit on when I should book this appointment? Also, the form that I'm suppose to bring with me, do I get that after emailing them when my appointment is going to be?
I'm still waiting for a date a renewal appointment from health Canada . I'm guessing health Canada doctors are extremely busy based the corona virus . I'm hoping at least they can do this in the next 2 months to be considered for June,July August intake
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Interview- Sept 2018
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hsinom » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:46 pm

Got the email yesterday telling me to book my CATIII appointment (wohoo!). Just wondering, is there suppose to be a time limit on when I should book this appointment? Also, the form that I'm suppose to bring with me, do I get that after emailing them when my appointment is going to be?

I'm still waiting for a date on a renewal appointment from health Canada . I'm guessing health Canada doctors are extremely busy based the corona virus outbreak . I'm hoping at least they can do this in the next 2 months to be considered for June,July August intake.
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Interview- Sept 2018
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby raasan » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:40 pm

cbmcmsa wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:57 pm
raasan wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:36 pm
Hi,

First time poster. I had a question regarding the bilingual position. I noticed some saying that it may not be worth it due to troubles getting a transfer down the road. I was wondering what the benefits of being a bilingual officer would be?
$800 annually and lots of heavily requested OT.

Might be able to get a better port... MIGHT
Would you say it’s worth it? I read in the previous comments that it’s really hard to get transfers because the ports tend to hang on to the Bilingual officers. Also, what ports are considered “better”?
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Boxto » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:32 pm

oceanblue11 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:34 pm
cbmcmsa wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:40 am
Boxto wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 am
Hello everybody

I'm getting close to the end of the process...I have to do the oral test (sle) and the medical exam.

I will have a surgery in may 2020, with a 6-8 weeks recovery..this bring me to august...the timing is not what I expected... question for those who can answer..can I delay my admission if i'm still under recovery? Or can I be part of the August intake with a 2-3 weeks medical ticket? it would be sad to delay the process by 5 months...


From what I know, there will be a bilingual intake in..August and...January, right?

Thanks..
No one on here can accurately answer this, email recruitment.
I can partially answer it, once they send you the official invite for OITP you’ll see that there’s an option to request an alternate date. It says you need to have a medical/doctor’s certificate for proof. So I interpreted that as your request is only approved if you have proof, but I’m not sure if they’ll let you attend while you’re at the end of your recovery considering that your full recovery can’t be guaranteed. I’m pretty sure we have to do the fitness tests and PARE in the first week or two as well.
Thanks ! I will wait my invite before contacting HR...I might have a surprise, and the surgery could be sooner..who knows..One step at a time...
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OTEE: October 18 pass
Interview: April 19 pass
RPAL : June 19 pass
Psy Eval: July 19 - pass
Psy Interview - Aug 19 pass
PARE: October 19 pass
Sec Clear - Jan 20 pass
SLE (writ/Read) Feb 20 pass

SLE (oral) tbd
Medical tbd

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hashimshah » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:44 am

IronWolf wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:49 pm
hashimshah wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:33 pm
Given my timeline, does anyone know when I should roughly expect the OITP and call to Rigaud?

Do you suggest I do the gun course now or when I get the call?
If you are waiting for an invite without CFSC and CRFSC courses done and tests passed, you may wait for a while. I believe passing these is a condition to get an invite.
Thanks. I thought, CFSC and CRFSC were required before Rigaud as per the email they sent earlier in the process. But good to know. I will get on it. Let's say I get that. How much longer do people wait, normally?
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby cbmcmsa » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:04 am

raasan wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:40 pm
cbmcmsa wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:57 pm
raasan wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:36 pm
Hi,

First time poster. I had a question regarding the bilingual position. I noticed some saying that it may not be worth it due to troubles getting a transfer down the road. I was wondering what the benefits of being a bilingual officer would be?
$800 annually and lots of heavily requested OT.

Might be able to get a better port... MIGHT
Would you say it’s worth it? I read in the previous comments that it’s really hard to get transfers because the ports tend to hang on to the Bilingual officers. Also, what ports are considered “better”?
I'll put it to you this way, being BIL is both an asset and a hinderance. Depending on the port, how many BIL officers they have, how many they get, resources, etc. you could have an ok time, or a not great time. Currently at my port we have 4 active BIL on a 2 wheel line split against like 30 regular BSOs. This means that we essentially have no way to release our BIL officers to go for training, deployments, etc. while regular officers are getting transferred, BFI training, etc. Is that fair? Not really, but BSOs are slave to that terrible, ambiguous phrase, "OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENT". This is the hinderance. Since most ports are designated BIL ports, it means we need a BIL presence as long as the POE is open. We're 24/7/365. Which means our 4 BIL officers don't get to really deviate except for Vacay, FRR, Sick leave, in which case one of the other BILs has to pull OT.

Now the asset. Having the ability to communicate in both official languages is huge if you work somewhere that has a lot of French/North African travellers as you will be able to (more or less) communicate with them personally, meaning your exams will be easier than trying to do the go between thing that others have to. You also get OT. I know I listed it as a hinderance, because it's pretty much non-stop, but that's also a benefit. If you like to work/make money/bank CT, you'll have that option pretty much on tap depending on the port, and you could make some really really killer money. That 800/year is really a bad # because it's from when the incentive was introduced and hasn't been adjusted for market value. That being said, I see the BIL guys more than anyone because they're always here.

Does it suck, and force you to do things that are required by the operation, that might not be in your original plans... Yeah kind of, but I'm not telling you what to do, just my opinion on the matter. There are lots of officers that have passable/serviceable French but don't do the SLE because they don't want to. You could always do it later on if you felt it would be good for you as well.

Me personally, I could take the SLE and probably get whatever the lower passing qualification is, but I'm not going to, because it wouldn't benefit me personally.

Again just my two cents, take everything on here with a grain of salt. Others may tell you otherwise.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Dave Brown » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm

hashimshah wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:33 pm
Given my timeline, does anyone know when I should roughly expect the OITP and call to Rigaud?

Do you suggest I do the gun course now or when I get the call?
It always amazes me when I read how applicants want to hold off on the CFSC/CRFSC until absolutely necessary; wait until the last minute; or, look for the shortest/cheapest course out there that they can find.

Good grief. Take it NOW.

Look for the longest, most expensive and BEST CFSC/CRFSC course you can find. Take it SERIOUSLY. Pay ATTENTION. Pass with 98%s all around.

It will be the best training course you ever took.

Every single police and law enforcement officer in Canada should have the CFSC/CRFSC. Even the ones who think they know everything. (They don't.)

Why? Here's a clue:

Friendly fire … isn't.

Friendly fire fucking hurts. (Just as much as enemy fire.) It kills. (Just as much as enemy fire.) If you don't relish the idea of seeing a colleague bleeding to death in a ditch, knowing there is NOTHING you can do for them, and - if you don't have a tourniquet and an artery is severed - they will be unconscious in one minute and dead in two, then TAKE THE COURSE. Learn muzzle control and trigger finger discipline.

There have been far too many officers killed in training incidents in Canada.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hashimshah » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:16 pm

Dave Brown wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm
hashimshah wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:33 pm
Given my timeline, does anyone know when I should roughly expect the OITP and call to Rigaud?

Do you suggest I do the gun course now or when I get the call?
It always amazes me when I read how applicants want to hold off on the CFSC/CRFSC until absolutely necessary; wait until the last minute; or, look for the shortest/cheapest course out there that they can find.

Good grief. Take it NOW.

Look for the longest, most expensive and BEST CFSC/CRFSC course you can find. Take it SERIOUSLY. Pay ATTENTION. Pass with 98%s all around.

It will be the best training course you ever took.

Every single police and law enforcement officer in Canada should have the CFSC/CRFSC. Even the ones who think they know everything. (They don't.)

Why? Here's a clue:

Friendly fire … isn't.

Friendly fire fucking hurts. (Just as much as enemy fire.) It kills. (Just as much as enemy fire.) If you don't relish the idea of seeing a colleague bleeding to death in a ditch, knowing there is NOTHING you can do for them, and - if you don't have a tourniquet and an artery is severed - they will be unconscious in one minute and dead in two, then TAKE THE COURSE. Learn muzzle control and trigger finger discipline.

There have been far too many officers killed in training incidents in Canada.
Wow.. thanks Dave. I can sense the tough love.

Jokes aside, I believe you advice is sincere. I totally agree that gun safety is of utmost importance. I will take your advice. There are a few reasons the applicants may not attempt it off the bat. They are not well informed by the hiring managers/recruitment on how long this is valid for. Now that I researched, it is valid for life aparently. For example PARE or medical expire and people keep thinking same is the case with gun safety. But no tells you that. Second, the recruitment team itself gives an option to delay it till you join Rigaud. It alludes that this is not an urgently needed step.

Despite all that, we have forums like this one where people like you can guide us to right direction.
OTEE: Oct 2018
Interview: May 2019
Psyc Test & int: Jul 2019 & Aug 2019, resp
Sec Cl Sub: Sep 2019
Med: Oct 2019
PARE: Dec 2019
Secret Clearance Interview: Dec 2019
Secret Clearance Granted: Jan 2020
CRFC: Pending
OITP: Pending
Rigaud: Pending

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Ulcaster555 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:16 pm

hashimshah wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:16 pm
Dave Brown wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm
hashimshah wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:33 pm
Given my timeline, does anyone know when I should roughly expect the OITP and call to Rigaud?

Do you suggest I do the gun course now or when I get the call?
It always amazes me when I read how applicants want to hold off on the CFSC/CRFSC until absolutely necessary; wait until the last minute; or, look for the shortest/cheapest course out there that they can find.

Good grief. Take it NOW.

Look for the longest, most expensive and BEST CFSC/CRFSC course you can find. Take it SERIOUSLY. Pay ATTENTION. Pass with 98%s all around.

It will be the best training course you ever took.

Every single police and law enforcement officer in Canada should have the CFSC/CRFSC. Even the ones who think they know everything. (They don't.)

Why? Here's a clue:

Friendly fire … isn't.

Friendly fire fucking hurts. (Just as much as enemy fire.) It kills. (Just as much as enemy fire.) If you don't relish the idea of seeing a colleague bleeding to death in a ditch, knowing there is NOTHING you can do for them, and - if you don't have a tourniquet and an artery is severed - they will be unconscious in one minute and dead in two, then TAKE THE COURSE. Learn muzzle control and trigger finger discipline.

There have been far too many officers killed in training incidents in Canada.
Wow.. thanks Dave. I can sense the tough love.

Jokes aside, I believe you advice is sincere. I totally agree that gun safety is of utmost importance. I will take your advice. There are a few reasons the applicants may not attempt it off the bat. They are not well informed by the hiring managers/recruitment on how long this is valid for. Now that I researched, it is valid for life aparently. For example PARE or medical expire and people keep thinking same is the case with gun safety. But no tells you that. Second, the recruitment team itself gives an option to delay it till you join Rigaud. It alludes that this is not an urgently needed step.

Despite all that, we have forums like this one where people like you can guide us to right direction.
In Quebec you have to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC) from official instructors, you can't take one from a Joe Blow backwoods organization.

See link below.
https://www.fqtir.qc.ca/en/become-a-tar ... ter/crfsc/
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby A North » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:35 pm

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:16 pm
hashimshah wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:16 pm
Dave Brown wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm

It always amazes me when I read how applicants want to hold off on the CFSC/CRFSC until absolutely necessary; wait until the last minute; or, look for the shortest/cheapest course out there that they can find.

Good grief. Take it NOW.

Look for the longest, most expensive and BEST CFSC/CRFSC course you can find. Take it SERIOUSLY. Pay ATTENTION. Pass with 98%s all around.

It will be the best training course you ever took.

Every single police and law enforcement officer in Canada should have the CFSC/CRFSC. Even the ones who think they know everything. (They don't.)

Why? Here's a clue:

Friendly fire … isn't.

Friendly fire fucking hurts. (Just as much as enemy fire.) It kills. (Just as much as enemy fire.) If you don't relish the idea of seeing a colleague bleeding to death in a ditch, knowing there is NOTHING you can do for them, and - if you don't have a tourniquet and an artery is severed - they will be unconscious in one minute and dead in two, then TAKE THE COURSE. Learn muzzle control and trigger finger discipline.

There have been far too many officers killed in training incidents in Canada.
Wow.. thanks Dave. I can sense the tough love.

Jokes aside, I believe you advice is sincere. I totally agree that gun safety is of utmost importance. I will take your advice. There are a few reasons the applicants may not attempt it off the bat. They are not well informed by the hiring managers/recruitment on how long this is valid for. Now that I researched, it is valid for life aparently. For example PARE or medical expire and people keep thinking same is the case with gun safety. But no tells you that. Second, the recruitment team itself gives an option to delay it till you join Rigaud. It alludes that this is not an urgently needed step.

Despite all that, we have forums like this one where people like you can guide us to right direction.
In Quebec you have to take the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC) from official instructors, you can't take one from a Joe Blow backwoods organization.

See link below.
https://www.fqtir.qc.ca/en/become-a-tar ... ter/crfsc/
The rules are the same for all CFSC and CRFSC in Canada, by the way.
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