GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby oceanblue11 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:13 pm

Kevlar wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:26 pm
Again, I cannot stress that PARE enough. Dont underestimate it. When I did mine, class of 12, more than half failed. Not one female passed. All died on the push pull. All were very petite. Where a heavier person with poor core thrength could just force their way through the push these very lean and very fit ladies could barely push the plunger in and keep it there for one pass. Do Not LeaveYour Pare For The Last Minute. I inadvertantly did because my timeline bumped ahead unexpectedly and there were a number of people there in the same boat. Holy the stress they had after failing and there were no more tests available within a 300km radius before the deadline.

Start preparing when you put your application in, Get it done when you get your request for medical after you complete your psych. This should give you plenty of time to retake if you have to since a) its valid for 18 months and b) you put your security paperwork in at the same time as the medical and that takes on average 4 to 12 months. Best advice I can give.
As a smaller female myself (5’5”) the best push/pull training advice I can give for other females is to do strength training for leg day (80-90lbs sled push/pull, squat rack, dumbbell lunges, box jumps etc.) and chest/triceps (bench press, seated chest press, overhead cable pull, overhead dumbbell tricep extension, push ups etc.), I did it every 5 days. I also found that crossing my feet (instead of shuffling) for both the push and pull was the fastest technique for the actual test because it gives you more momentum. And make sure your shoes have some traction and aren’t worn out! I saw people waste a lot of time/energy from slipping everywhere on the push/pull. Also for cardio before my test I was alternating between doing 7.5 mph for 20 mins on the treadmill and a 27-30min 5k outdoors, 6 days a week. I wasn’t an athlete beforehand either, I actually went from 153lbs to 128lbs after training for 2.5 months. The PARE can be a good wake up call for people who are out shape, but you will also see some people get by without training and being very overweight because the push/pull is nothing to them 🙃.

One tip I recommend to anyone doing the test in the winter is to bring Halls with you. The air in the gym will most likely be very dry and warm, so taking one like 10-15 mins before your test can really help with your breathing and preventing the “PARE cough” after the test.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby bectacular » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:56 am

Can anyone tell me what exactly the cat III medical entails? All my searches turn up aviation-related info. Is it the same? I'm not worried, just curious.

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Postby Zedlinka » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:00 am

bectacular wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:56 am
Can anyone tell me what exactly the cat III medical entails? All my searches turn up aviation-related info. Is it the same? I'm not worried, just curious.
They'll test your vision, hearing. Go over family medical history, previous medical concerns, etc.
They'll do a physical exam too.

That pretty well covers it.
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Postby hoss1920 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:29 am

Kevlar wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:26 pm
Again, I cannot stress that PARE enough. Dont underestimate it. When I did mine, class of 12, more than half failed. Not one female passed. All died on the push pull. All were very petite. Where a heavier person with poor core thrength could just force their way through the push these very lean and very fit ladies could barely push the plunger in and keep it there for one pass. Do Not LeaveYour Pare For The Last Minute. I inadvertantly did because my timeline bumped ahead unexpectedly and there were a number of people there in the same boat. Holy the stress they had after failing and there were no more tests available within a 300km radius before the deadline.

Start preparing when you put your application in, Get it done when you get your request for medical after you complete your psych. This should give you plenty of time to retake if you have to since a) its valid for 18 months and b) you put your security paperwork in at the same time as the medical and that takes on average 4 to 12 months. Best advice I can give.
Agreed. Don't wait too long to get your PARE done. If you pass it first time and it expires you're out $60 and the hassle of a re certification. If you passed it once you can do it again... If you fail you've got time to train for your weak portions and schedule a retest. Nobody needs the added stress of driving 300+kms with a conditional offer on the table.
Applied:   Aug 31 2018
OTEE:   Sept 9 2018
Interview:  Nov 15 2018
PARE: Jan 13 2019
Psych test:  Jan 14 2019
Psych interview:  Feb 1 2019
SLE : Aug 8 2019
Medical: Apr 24 2019
Security Interview:  June 8 2019
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Postby Lospollos » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:34 am

IronWolf wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:47 am
Newrecruit1983 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:28 am
If I live in the Niagara region am I allowed to drive to Rigaud or is it something they make you fly or train or something because it’s over a certain distance. Just curious thanks in advance
You are free to go there any way you like. Having your car there will be a nice convenience plus for sure.

Most likely you will get paid in some form (gas money) that 2 way trip to Rigaud and back home. I would ask HR for the details.
I understand that you are new here so before you assume things such as this let someone who knows answer the question.
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Postby hoss1920 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:39 am

A friend of mine is a Parliamentary Police Officer on the hill in Ottawa. I asked him about his firearms training. he said it's done using the RCMP model and the attached criteria shooting at human silhouette paper targets. Is this comparable to CBSA?

1 stage: 25 meter behind a barricade -5 shot strong side / 2 shot support side / 5 shot kneeling strong side / 2 shot kneeling support side / Tactical reloading / 2 shot on the ground
2 stage: 15 meter - 4 shot up and 4 shot down
3 stage: 10 meter - 2 shot 4 time when ask by the officer
4 stage: 5 meter - Police challenge - 4 time when threat 2 shot center mass 1 shot to the head
5 stage: 3 meter - One arms - 4 shot strong hand / emergency reload / 4 shot support hand
You have to score the minimum of point in each of stage and all the stage combine have to be 200 points. 225 is cross pistol and 250 perfect score is crown
Major Safety during the qualification is automatically a fail
Applied:   Aug 31 2018
OTEE:   Sept 9 2018
Interview:  Nov 15 2018
PARE: Jan 13 2019
Psych test:  Jan 14 2019
Psych interview:  Feb 1 2019
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Security Interview:  June 8 2019
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Postby Extremely_Loud » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:49 am

Can someone give me more information about the second language test?

I found some details about the format of the assessment on the Public Services Commission's website, but I imagine there could be a couple of differences when done during the CBSA's hiring process.

Are some parts of the test done online, as indicated? I suppose the oral evaluation must be done in person? Where do evaluations usually take place - and how long does it take? I'm living in a remote area - anybody in my situation that already did the test?

I did some research on the forum, but I didn't find anything... Thanks!

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Postby Zedlinka » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:53 am

hoss1920 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:39 am
A friend of mine is a Parliamentary Police Officer on the hill in Ottawa. I asked him about his firearms training. he said it's done using the RCMP model and the attached criteria shooting at human silhouette paper targets. Is this comparable to CBSA?

1 stage: 25 meter behind a barricade -5 shot strong side / 2 shot support side / 5 shot kneeling strong side / 2 shot kneeling support side / Tactical reloading / 2 shot on the ground
2 stage: 15 meter - 4 shot up and 4 shot down
3 stage: 10 meter - 2 shot 4 time when ask by the officer
4 stage: 5 meter - Police challenge - 4 time when threat 2 shot center mass 1 shot to the head
5 stage: 3 meter - One arms - 4 shot strong hand / emergency reload / 4 shot support hand
You have to score the minimum of point in each of stage and all the stage combine have to be 200 points. 225 is cross pistol and 250 perfect score is crown
Major Safety during the qualification is automatically a fail
Accurate, yet expected to change either 2020 or 2021. I heard that they're changing stage one a bit. Can't confirm exact changes, but what you said is currently accurate.
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Postby Zedlinka » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:56 am

Lospollos wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:34 am
IronWolf wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:47 am
Newrecruit1983 wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:28 am
If I live in the Niagara region am I allowed to drive to Rigaud or is it something they make you fly or train or something because it’s over a certain distance. Just curious thanks in advance
You are free to go there any way you like. Having your car there will be a nice convenience plus for sure.

Most likely you will get paid in some form (gas money) that 2 way trip to Rigaud and back home. I would ask HR for the details.
I understand that you are new here so before you assume things such as this let someone who knows answer the question.
His answer was for the most part accurate.
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Postby Newrecruit1983 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm

Second question for anyone who did fly.

Again me from Niagara I just don’t want to drive and waste money on gas when it’s not really important. I’ll get away and walk where I need to go.

Question is two part.

When flying do you get a certain amount of luggage you can bring with you.

And once you are in Montreal do they have a transfer for you or is it on you to get to the college after they fly you out.

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Postby Zedlinka » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pm

Newrecruit1983 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm
Second question for anyone who did fly.

Again me from Niagara I just don’t want to drive and waste money on gas when it’s not really important. I’ll get away and walk where I need to go.

Question is two part.

When flying do you get a certain amount of luggage you can bring with you.

And once you are in Montreal do they have a transfer for you or is it on you to get to the college after they fly you out.
I brought two suitcases plus my carry on, they reimbursed me. Beyond that I'm not sure, but that was enough.

There's a shuttle from the airport to the college. (it's a school bus.) and the instructions they gave us were incorrect and there was a wonderful bonding moment of about 20 Rigaud recruits all hanging out in the wrong spot for a few hours before they found us.
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Postby Newrecruit1983 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:42 pm

Zedlinka wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pm
Newrecruit1983 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm
Second question for anyone who did fly.

Again me from Niagara I just don’t want to drive and waste money on gas when it’s not really important. I’ll get away and walk where I need to go.

Question is two part.

When flying do you get a certain amount of luggage you can bring with you.

And once you are in Montreal do they have a transfer for you or is it on you to get to the college after they fly you out.
I brought two suitcases plus my carry on, they reimbursed me. Beyond that I'm not sure, but that was enough.

There's a shuttle from the airport to the college. (it's a school bus.) and the instructions they gave us were incorrect and there was a wonderful bonding moment of about 20 Rigaud recruits all hanging out in the wrong spot for a few hours before they found us.


Thanks for the info as always. I appreciate it greatly. Have a great weekend.

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Postby hoss1920 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:39 pm

Extremely_Loud wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:49 am
Can someone give me more information about the second language test?

I found some details about the format of the assessment on the Public Services Commission's website, but I imagine there could be a couple of differences when done during the CBSA's hiring process.

Are some parts of the test done online, as indicated? I suppose the oral evaluation must be done in person? Where do evaluations usually take place - and how long does it take? I'm living in a remote area - anybody in my situation that already did the test?

I did some research on the forum, but I didn't find anything... Thanks!
I completed my SLE (French) this year. You start off with the Reading Comprehension test which consists of 60 multiple choice questions in 90 minutes. Then the Test of Written Expression is 65 multiple choice questions in 90 minutes.

If you achieve at least a B on both tests CBSA will schedule you for the Oral testing. The oral test involves listening to some recordings then explaining the content and answering some questions from your assessor. You also talk with your assessor about yourself. They will ask you some questions. It takes about 40 mins.

I signed up with a language school to practice before my exams. Well worth it. I'm not sure I would have pulled off my BB without their prep.

For the first two exams you are in a room with hundreds of government employees from various departments. Everyone needs to re certify every 5 years unless they get an exemption. Nothing is done online. I did my exams in some giant government of Canada building in Gatineau.

http://www.practice-psc-tests.ca/en/home/

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-service ... rvice.html
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OTEE:   Sept 9 2018
Interview:  Nov 15 2018
PARE: Jan 13 2019
Psych test:  Jan 14 2019
Psych interview:  Feb 1 2019
SLE : Aug 8 2019
Medical: Apr 24 2019
Security Interview:  June 8 2019
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Postby mapleforce » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:30 am

Well, my friends, if you are around the last steps of your selection process, you may receive an invitation in the next days.

I got an invitation earlier this week to start the online training module on December 23. Then, I may go to Rigaud on February 10. I will post my timeline because I'm not sure I'm dealing with the signature in the correct way:

Applied: 2018/03
OTEE: N/A
Interview: 2019/02
Psych test: 2019-03
SLE: 2019/05
Med: 2019/06
Security clearance: 2019/07 - 2019/09
PARE: 2019/10
OITP: 2019/11
Rigaud: 2019/02 (?)

I have replied to the invitation and now I'm waiting for the CBSA College to contact me.
Applied: 2018/03
OTEE: N/A
Interview: 2019/02
Psych test: 2019-03
SLE: 2019/05
Med: 2019/06
Security clearance: 2019/07 - 2019/09
PARE: 2019/10
OITP: 2019/11
Rigaud: 2019/02 (?)

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Postby Zedlinka » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:41 am

mapleforce wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:30 am
Well, my friends, if you are around the last steps of your selection process, you may receive an invitation in the next days.

I got an invitation earlier this week to start the online training module on December 23. Then, I may go to Rigaud on February 10. I will post my timeline because I'm not sure I'm dealing with the signature in the correct way:

Applied: 2018/03
OTEE: N/A
Interview: 2019/02
Psych test: 2019-03
SLE: 2019/05
Med: 2019/06
Security clearance: 2019/07 - 2019/09
PARE: 2019/10
OITP: 2019/11
Rigaud: 2019/02 (?)

I have replied to the invitation and now I'm waiting for the CBSA College to contact me.
Congrats! Good luck and have fun!
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