AR15 petition

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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Tony-Boogie » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:00 am

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Grassynarrows wrote:We need to challenge this variant garbage

yes we do..but with the gov't giving total control to the "firearms experts" in the RCMP..it will be a never ending fight.


What we need is the "common sense panel" to review any decisions made by these so called "firearms experts". Just for fun the panel could be comprised of three LE, three military, three conservation officers, and one criminal. Ten people that are gun owners, or at least a variant of a gun owner.
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Re: AR15 petition

Postby HiPowered » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Tony-Boogie wrote:
Striker wrote:
Grassynarrows wrote:We need to challenge this variant garbage

yes we do..but with the gov't giving total control to the "firearms experts" in the RCMP..it will be a never ending fight.


What we need is the "common sense panel" to review any decisions made by these so called "firearms experts". Just for fun the panel could be comprised of three LE, three military, three conservation officers, and one criminal. Ten people that are gun owners, or at least a variant of a gun owner.


I'd leave the military out of it. They know their issued firearms well, but not much else on the outside. They aren't the firearms experts that people think they are.

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Re: AR15 petition

Postby RGW » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:32 am

Bump. Petition closes soon.

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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Grassynarrows » Wed May 04, 2016 9:07 pm

Sounds like there is a war brewing in Manitoba between some of the ranges and the Cfo
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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Chillykb19 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:11 pm

Changed my mind....
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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Bitterman » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:55 am

Chillykb19 wrote:It looks like I am well in the minority with this post but I don't want those weapons in the hands of anyone who is not in uniform. civilians don't need AR-15s. They don't need them at all. Fire away folks but putting firepower like that in to the hands of the general population is pointless. Those are not toys. This is Canada. Guns are not a right.



Well.... if the population at large doesn't have firearms then the cops don't "need" them either.

Most of the hate fir the AR stems out of pure ignorance.
There are far more devistating/powerful guns readily available at SAIL or some Canadian a tire stores.

As far as rights go you are correct... no rights. Not for guns or any other property
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Postby devilwoman » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:43 am

Most of the hate fir the AR stems out of pure ignorance.


After the Florida shooting a good friend posted an article on FB and there's was quite the discussion on ARs. One of their friends tried attacking my stance on how people and societal views are the issue, not the means (IE the guns). He said, "Then why does it have assault rifle right in its name?" My response, "Actually it stands for ArmaLite Rifle, the name of the company that manufactures it."

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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Boxer Dogs » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:59 am

devilwoman wrote:
Most of the hate fir the AR stems out of pure ignorance.


After the Florida shooting a good friend posted an article on FB and there's was quite the discussion on ARs. One of their friends tried attacking my stance on how people and societal views are the issue, not the means (IE the guns). He said, "Then why does it have assault rifle right in its name?" My response, "Actually it stands for ArmaLite Rifle, the name of the company that manufactures it."

Dead silence........ :smirk:


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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Bitterman » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:38 pm

devilwoman wrote:
... it stands for ArmaLite Rifle, the name of the company that manufactures it."





...a Division of Fairchild Engine and Airplane Corporation ;-)


In truth "Armalite" is long gone, but the company was, with Eugene Stoner primarily behind the design.
These days there are dozens of manufacturers producing AR pattern products.
One of the largest is right here in Canada. (Colt Canada in Kitchener)
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Re: AR15 petition

Postby mack_silent » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:25 pm

I can't think of any Canadian news articles where a legal gun owner has shot someone.

Criminals and gangs on the other hand...
Every few days, in my city alone, there's headlines about shootings.
But I haven't heard of a single new headline for gang shooting which involved AR's.

A petition for stronger gun control -or- to ban certain models of firearms won't affect gang crime.
Criminals don't buy firearms legally, they don't follow laws, and they certainly wouldn't respect a gun ban.

It seems the non firearm owning general public is extremely misinformed about AR's.
I had a conversation with someone who thought Police shouldn't be allowed to use an AR against a suspect with a handgun because "it'd be unfair as rifles are larger/stronger than handguns".
These are the ignorant people who are likely applauding a petition. They fear the name and negative connotations which the media is pushing.
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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Bairdo » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:47 pm

mack_silent wrote:I can't think of any Canadian news articles where a legal gun owner has shot someone.
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You must not follow Canadian news much then.

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Re: AR15 petition

Postby Z42A » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:59 am

ryan.p wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:26 pm
I'd like to see a petition regarding the allowance of pistols to be discharged at places other than approved ranges. What a silly system that you can go out and discharge high powered and semi-automatic rifles on private property but a 9mm pistol can only be discharged at an approved range.
I have a question about this. Somebody mentioned it in an online discussion elsewhere, and I've done some searching and cannot actually find the section of law that limits the use of restricted firearms to approved ranges.
I contacted my CFO, and he referred me to the firearms act where is talks about transporting, but nothing about discharging the firearm. He said for anything further to contact the firearms centre in Miramichi. So, I contacted the RCMP firearms program, and they also were unable to quote which actual law limits the discharging of a restricted firearm to the range.
This all came about from a conversation about whether it was legal to plink gophers with your pistol on your own property, and so far I can't find the actual law regarding this. Anyone who can direct me to the CCC or wherever that addresses this, it would be appreciated.

On another note, different but similar... where is the law that says you must be a member of a range to register your restricted firearms (Ontario excepted)? I know the mounties won't complete the process unless you can show proof of membership, but what section of law backs that up? Is it just a departmental policy, or is there a legal justification to support it? Again, I can't find this mentioned in the actual Act, only on the firearms program web page FAQs.
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