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Re: Downloading Music

Postby PPSC Lawyer » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:42 pm

That being said, I believe downloading music (and only music) is actually very much a legal grey area in Canada. There was a ruling that explicitly said it was legal. That ruling was overturned because of insufficient evidence (which isn't the same as the court of appeal saying the trial judge was wrong).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Gustapo » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:51 pm

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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Mongo » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:47 pm

PPSC Lawyer wrote:That being said, I believe downloading music (and only music) is actually very much a legal grey area in Canada. There was a ruling that explicitly said it was legal. That ruling was overturned because of insufficient evidence (which isn't the same as the court of appeal saying the trial judge was wrong).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada

True, true. But I believe if you look at the case of the People vs. Smarmy Rock Stars, Bono testified that illegal downloading was severely hurting his ability to even earn a decent living. When the judge asked him if he had been forced to sell off any of his 12 castles, he scoffed, "Not a chance". That case was also thrown out for insufficient evidence...
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Technobabbler » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:30 am

This is an on going argument I have with a few of my friends. I don't download music or movies because I don't believe it's ethical. You can argue the point that the RCMP aren't pursuing personal file sharing but that doesn't mean it's right. I am willing to bet that 95% of people who download music wouldn't go into a record store and steal a cd but there really isn't any difference. The thing that kills me is that it so affordable now LMAFO is at the top of the billboard charts right now and you can pick the album up for a whopping 11.99 off of iTunes. (Disclaimer: This is just an example and in no way reflects my taste in music) Seriously though I spent more at dinner last night on just my entree.

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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Sk82 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:10 pm

I love the iTunes music store. The sound quality is great, no viruses, songs are downloaded in seconds, comes with the album art for my iPod, and only .99 cents per song. I really couldn't be bothered with trying to find a torrent site or whatever program people are using to pirate music. I agree 100% with the RCMP's policy regarding applicants that are pirating music for free. When one of the federal statues you could be potentially enforcing being the copy right act, its a credibility issue in court if you yourself as a police officer are breaking the same law you are enforcing. With the way lawyer's try and dig up dirt on officers on the stand through disciplinary records, tickets, and etc its already hard enough.
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby boatgirl » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:12 pm

Soon2BRCMP wrote:I love the iTunes music store. The sound quality is great, no viruses, songs are downloaded in seconds, comes with the album art for my iPod, and only .99 cents per song. I really couldn't be bothered with trying to find a torrent site or whatever program people are using to pirate music. I agree 100% with the RCMP's policy regarding applicants that are pirating music for free. When one of the federal statues you could be potentially enforcing being the copy right act, its a credibility issue in court if you yourself as a police officer are breaking the same law you are enforcing. With the way lawyer's try and dig up dirt on officers on the stand through disciplinary records, tickets, and etc its already hard enough.


+1! I LOVE the iTunes store, for movies and books too!
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Toonces » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:44 am

I love iTunes as well. Can't go wrong!
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Technobabbler » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:26 pm

boatgirl wrote:
Soon2BRCMP wrote:I love the iTunes music store. The sound quality is great, no viruses, songs are downloaded in seconds, comes with the album art for my iPod, and only .99 cents per song. I really couldn't be bothered with trying to find a torrent site or whatever program people are using to pirate music. I agree 100% with the RCMP's policy regarding applicants that are pirating music for free. When one of the federal statues you could be potentially enforcing being the copy right act, its a credibility issue in court if you yourself as a police officer are breaking the same law you are enforcing. With the way lawyer's try and dig up dirt on officers on the stand through disciplinary records, tickets, and etc its already hard enough.


+1! I LOVE the iTunes store, for movies and books too!


A little off topic if you like audio books check out audible.com. There subscription model works pretty well or you can buy books straight up.

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Re: Downloading Music

Postby SierraSeven » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:44 pm

Never had a problem at all with iTunes, and now with the new features in iOS 5 coming out, it will be even better! Buy a song on itunes and it will automatically download to your iPhone, and vice-versa!
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby warden602 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:48 pm

Stumbled upon this rant about music downloading on the internet via an acquaintance. I certainly don't agree with this guy, but it is hilarious. Also NSFW:

"Why I don't Care That I'm Killing Music"
http://www.drunkenbastardman.co.za/horror/19music.htm

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Re: Downloading Music

Postby basketcase » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:24 am

With all of the live streaming audio in high quality and all of the stuff on youtube I don't bother with downloaded music. If I need stuff for my ipod I go to itunes. Otherwise when I'm at home working out I plug the laptop into the stereo and stream my workout music through youtube. Create a playlist of videos and let it go.
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Madeline236 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:38 pm

Thoughts on this from Bob Rivers

(to the tune of Money for Nothing)
"Oh look at that computer
That's the way you do it
Play your music on your MP3
That ain't stealin'
Everybody's doin' it
Get your music for nothin'
And your hits for free
That ain't crooked
Everybody's doin' it
Let me tell ya
Them kids ain't dumb
They don't give a rip
About their favorite singer
They just keep on rippin' off their song
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby SupahDuck » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:58 am

Madeline236 wrote:Thoughts on this from Bob Rivers

(to the tune of Money for Nothing)
"Oh look at that computer
That's the way you do it
Play your music on your MP3
That ain't stealin'
Everybody's doin' it
Get your music for nothin'
And your hits for free
That ain't crooked
Everybody's doin' it
Let me tell ya
Them kids ain't dumb
They don't give a rip
About their favorite singer
They just keep on rippin' off their song
"


We gotta install LimeWire software....
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That ain't stealin'
Everybody's doin' it
Get your movies for nothin'
And your apps for free!

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Re: Downloading Music

Postby Mongo » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:01 pm

Technobabbler wrote: The thing that kills me is that it so affordable now LMAFO is at the top of the billboard charts right now and you can pick the album up for a whopping 11.99 off of iTunes. (Disclaimer: This is just an example and in no way reflects my taste in music) Seriously though I spent more at dinner last night on just my entree.

Indeed, 11.99 is pretty cheap all right.

But according to my arithmetic, it's still almost exactly 11.99 more than "free".
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Re: Downloading Music

Postby XtremeEuph » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:11 pm

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