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Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:25 am
by Grassynarrows
I hate to say it but I think as gun owners in Canada we will see reclassifications of our firearms we own

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:11 pm
by Bitterman
I'm amazed at how noone seems to have a problem with unelected people in effect making law.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:07 pm
by gotchya
Bitterman wrote:I'm amazed at how noone seems to have a problem with unelected people in effect making law.

Isn't every regulation made by an "unelected person"? Namely the Governor General.

Not to mention that federally the Senate has to give "approval" to legislation, it is not elected. There are a number of bodies that pass "laws" and they're not elected,for example the CRTC.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:59 pm
by Bitterman
gotchya wrote: There are a number of bodies that pass "laws" and they're not elected,for example the CRTC.



AFAIK there's a huge difference between laws and "regulations".
I can't recall anyone ever being jailed for breaking a CRTC regulation.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:47 pm
by gotchya
Bitterman wrote:AFAIK there's a huge difference between laws and "regulations".

Usually a law sets forward the framework and the regulation sets out the finer details. One pass through the legislative bodies, House of Commons, senate, Governor General the other made by the Governor General on the advice of the government. If there is a contradiction between the law and the regulation the law prevails.

At any rate, the regulatory regime you seem so surprised about is present in almost every federal and provincial piece of legislation and people do go to jail for failing to comply with them.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:57 am
by SteveH42
A.T.R. wrote:I'd be happy as a pig in shit.
I have 8.


That's way too much clutter in your safe. You should probably get rid of one of those...at a reasonable price.....to me....

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:15 pm
by Longarm9
I hope everyone signs this and forwards it as far afield as possible. We need as many signatures on this as humanly possible, not because I think the government will actually accept it and change the AR to non-restricted, but rather because it sends a message that may make the government think twice about pushing further draconian gun laws. If they get enough push back, they may decide it's safer to at least leave it at status quo.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:41 pm
by Bitterman
gotchya wrote:At any rate, the regulatory regime you seem so surprised about is present in almost every federal and provincial piece of legislation and people do go to jail for failing to comply with them.



Not "surprised", just frustrated with...

We're fuckin' "regulated" to death in this country.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:54 pm
by Longarm9
Bitterman wrote:Not "surprised", just frustrated with...

We're fuckin' "regulated" to death in this country.


Very much this.

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:34 pm
by Stump
Signed - and I don't even own an AR-15 :(

I agree, the RCMP should not be the ones deciding what is and what isn't legal.
Not their mandate to make the laws.

Stump

Re: AR15 petition

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:38 am
by Longarm9
Stump wrote:Signed - and I don't even own an AR-15 :(

I agree, the RCMP should not be the ones deciding what is and what isn't legal.
Not their mandate to make the laws.

Stump


We also need to have a government that stops listening to ignorant boobs who know absolutely nothing about guns, crime or anything else and start listening to groups who actually know guns and have actual evidence backing what they're saying when they take consultation on firearms related laws.