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Hoodwinkle wrote:NorthernBorder wrote:Thanks for the input so far. I do believe that if a price seems too good, it probably is for a reason. Since I can't buy our duty PX4 in Canada, does anyone have suggestions for A) an entry level personal shooter for someone comfortable with long guns and with big hands; B) a sales/service shop in E. Ontario? Any further thoughts are appreciated.
Buy a S&W M&P. There was a group buy in our area about 6 months ago and they were selling them in 9mm with 3 mags for $475(IIRC). Don't bother with the PX4 with extended barrel...I think they are going for $1000 give or take some change and our agency will likely switch firearms in the near future anyways.
Hoodwinkle, what part of the country are you? Sounds like you guys got a sweet deal...shoot me a PM with details if you don't mind.
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NorthernBorder wrote:OK, so I'm starting to shop for a handgun for target shooting. Anyone have comments/experience with Norincos? Marstar in my area carries them and the price is right, but I've heard a lot of mixed reviews about quality.
Well, there's a mixed bag of replies. None really answer your question very well.
Firstly, if you drive a Japanese, or German car, or shop at Wal-Mart, the "it was copied from a dead man's gun" is a spurious argument. World trade is what it is. You gotta get used to it.
Secondly, you want to shoot targets. What targets ? What are your expectations ? What are your abilities ? Does it have to be a self loader ?
Thirdly, what is your budget ?
Fourthly, Norinco don't make anything. They do export stuff, though.
My 1911 Norinco was a well made, reasonably accurate, 100% reliable handgun. It had an awful heavy trigger pull. I was going to spend some money dressing it up but it was cheaper to swap it for an STI Spartan 45acp. The Spartan comes with adjustable rear, fibre-optic front sight, beavertail grip safety, and lots of other bells and whistles. Scary accurate and only $720. Despite the Norinco being decent, the STI is a better bet for a cheap 1911.
Norinco also import CZ, Sig, Browning and commy pistol copies. These I can't comment on.
I've only been shooting handguns since the mid sixties, so may not have seen everything. However, my suggestion, if you don't want to start with a rimfire, is a used Smith and Wesson 38/357 revolver. (I personally would start you with a 22). They have smooth d/a, and crisp s/a trigger pulls and are very accurate, out of the box. Look around, I bought a Colt "357" ( a 50 year old predeccessor of the Python) for $275, and it shoots sub inch groups at 20m with cast bullet handloads. If you must get a self loader I wouldn't advise a DAO unless you specifically want to train on something similar to your duty gun.
Your original question says "Target shooting", so if it's bullseye accuracy you want forget the Glock/M&P type of thing. Not that they can't be shot well, but why handicap yourself ?
I wouldn't buy the Norinco for the same reason.
Hope that helps.
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