firearms - Conservation Officer

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firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby sunsetson » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:35 am

What kind of sidearm does a Conservation Officer use in your area and why?

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Bald Man » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:39 pm

Ontario Conservation use a .40S&W Heckler&Koch USP.

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Dave Brown » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:52 pm

Manitoba Conservation uses the Glock in .40 S&W.

Why? Because it just plain works.

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Grassynarrows » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:54 pm

Saskatchewan and Alberta Conservation Officers have Glocks in 40 s&w also. Canadian Wildlife Service and Fisheries and Oceans Enforcement carry the 5946 Smith an Wesson sameas the RCMP carry.
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Greg W » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:04 pm

In New Brunswick we carry Sig P226's with the DAK trigger in .40 S&W
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Grassynarrows » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:25 pm

BC carries a glock 40 s&w, Nova Scotia Carries a Sig 9mm I cant remember what model.
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Greg W » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:18 pm

Grassynarrows wrote:BC carries a glock 40 s&w, Nova Scotia Carries a Sig 9mm I cant remember what model.
NS has 226's. NL has .40 S&W 226's as well. They used the study my Dept. did to get theirs.
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby sunsetson » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:49 am

Thanks everyone!

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby warden602 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:43 am

Interesting... from the sounds of it everyone is using .40 cal except for the Feds and Nova Scotia using 9mm.

I've heard that it's been pre-ordained that we're going with the 9mm as well... despite the obvious choice most natural resource agencies in the country have made.

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Greg W » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:09 pm

warden602 wrote:Interesting... from the sounds of it everyone is using .40 cal except for the Feds and Nova Scotia using 9mm.

I've heard that it's been pre-ordained that we're going with the 9mm as well... despite the obvious choice most natural resource agencies in the country have made.
That's too bad. Someone isn't doing their homework or is being close minded. Many agencies who originally went with the 9mm in the 90's have switched to the .40 S&W or are wishing they could. This isn't a Canadian resource agency but just for interest's sake the Maine Warden Service Game Wardens carry a P226 in .357 Sig. They carried a .357 Magnum revolver prior to that.
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby SPC » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:41 am

warden602 wrote:Interesting... from the sounds of it everyone is using .40 cal except for the Feds and Nova Scotia using 9mm.
In British Columbia, .40 cal is specifically mandated under the Police Act.
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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Dave Brown » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:24 pm

The disturbing part is not necessarily the choice of the 9mm Luger cartridge. The disturbing part is that ANYTHING is already pre-ordained before they have even gone to the wardens to see what they wanted.

Anyone wanna take bets on what recommendations their 'experts' come up with for Parks Canada?

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Bald Man » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:52 pm

Dave Brown wrote:The disturbing part is not necessarily the choice of the 9mm Luger cartridge. The disturbing part is that ANYTHING is already pre-ordained before they have even gone to the wardens to see what they wanted.

Anyone wanna take bets on what recommendations their 'experts' come up with for Parks Canada?
My bets are on the hot new Webley .38S&W? ;)

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby Bald Man » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:56 pm

Greg W wrote:
warden602 wrote:Interesting... from the sounds of it everyone is using .40 cal except for the Feds and Nova Scotia using 9mm.

I've heard that it's been pre-ordained that we're going with the 9mm as well... despite the obvious choice most natural resource agencies in the country have made.
That's too bad. Someone isn't doing their homework or is being close minded. Many agencies who originally went with the 9mm in the 90's have switched to the .40 S&W or are wishing they could. This isn't a Canadian resource agency but just for interest's sake the Maine Warden Service Game Wardens carry a P226 in .357 Sig. They carried a .357 Magnum revolver prior to that.
New Jersey Fish and Wildlife issue a Glock 31 in .357 Sig. Great round. I are a bunch of agencies that carry the .357 Sig. This is what I came across on the net, I'm sure there is a lot more out there.

Alameda County Police
Delaware State Police (First to adopt the 357 SIG)
Dallas, Texas Police
Federal Air Marshals
Federal Protective Services (FPS) Special Agents for General Services Administration (GSA) - P229
Keizer Police Department, Oregon
La Porte County Indiana Sheriff's Department
Laurence County Sheriff's Office, Tennessee
Las Vegas Metro Police (allowed use of)
Liberty Twp Police Dept, Ohio
Maine Aroostook County Sheriff's Office
Maine Game Wardens (P226)
Maricopa County [Phoenix] Arizona Sheriff's Office/MCSO
Montcalm County (Michigan) Sheriff's Office
New Jersey Division of Fish & Game
New Mexico State Police
Niles Police Dept, Ohio
Northwood Police Dept, ND
NC Highway Patrol
NC Wake County Sheriff's Department
NC Wildlife Enforcement Officers
Nueces County Sheriff Department, Texas (Sigpro)
Oakland County Sheriff's Dept, Michigan
Orange Police Dept, CT (sig pro, SP2340 .357)
Orlando PD (plainclothes officers)
Oxford, Mississippi
Richmond, Virginia
Rocky Mount Police Dept, Rocky Mount, NC
Springfield, IL
Tennessee Highway Patrol
Union County Sheriff's Office, Marysville, Ohio (Glock 31)
Texas, DPS
United States (GSA) - Office of Inspector General (OIG) Special Agents - P229United States Secret Service
Virginia State Police

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Re: firearms - Conservation Officer

Postby warden602 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:46 pm

Dave Brown wrote:The disturbing part is not necessarily the choice of the 9mm Luger cartridge. The disturbing part is that ANYTHING is already pre-ordained before they have even gone to the wardens to see what they wanted.

Anyone wanna take bets on what recommendations their 'experts' come up with for Parks Canada?
There's a lot more disturbing stuff than that - like going from 400+ trained peace officer park wardens to "up to 100" enforcement officers.


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