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Local intel req'd

Postby Pierre-Marc Larocque » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:49 pm

Anybody know of these guys here?

http://federalmarshalsservice.com/

Is it a security company? A consulting firm? Interesting that - amongst their various services (and I mean various, from traffic control to counter-insurgency planning) - they offer chaplaincy & counselling services for law enforcement. It's all a bit confusing because their "mission" is:
The Federal Marshals Service was started with a specific goal in mind, the return of wanted fugitives, those people who have active warrants against their name, into lawful custody


I'm finding it interesting that they talk as though they are currently operational:
The Federal Marshals Service works, not to replace police officers, but with them, so that Police Services can better utilize their resources where they are needed the most.



But then, I find this (Post to Tim Hudak, PC candidate for provincial elections in Ontario):
What will you do about agencies such as WSIB (a bunch of high and mighty, know it all, know better than Doctors, but don't know a thing, crooks). What will you do about policing/law enforcement issues, take a look at our private policing, it is a viable option as seen in the UK, the US and Australia.. What about Govt departments taking a stand and stop passing the buck because they don't have the guts to say wither "yes" or "no". What about our fugitive recovery/criminal apprehension service, will you have the decency to talk to us and not pass us from one person to another without receiving an answer. Will you have the guts to allow us to perform our fugitive recovery/criminal apprehension service. Why should wanted criminals walk free because they now they won't get found.

(This stuff just writes itself, folks!)


So is this a prank, or did I just stumble in the loony bin aisle in the great information supermarket?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby Overcome » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:45 pm

The legal name for the company appears to be Jeff King (the company directors name), and the operating name is Federal Marshals Services. There are no available public records for corporations under either of those names federally or in Ontario, but the company appears to have started in January 2011 and public record may not have caught up yet.

Their website indicates they have unlisted services only offered to government agencies. However, they have no listed awards on MERX or biddingo. If government agencies are purchasing his services, there is no public record from the past 12 months (which would be before the company started).

The website appears to be registered by proxy, and the IP is located in the USA.

It appears the company was started with the goal of capturing fugitives: http://challenge.getgrowingforbusiness. ... annel=9821.

The only available service info on their website relates to traffic control, so I would hazard a guess that's all they do.

Some basic info on the company: http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/ccc/srch/nvgt.d ... 1&app=sold.

The company Director has a LinkedIn profile with some useful info on it: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/jeffking1970. Seems he worked in the security industry in Australia and the USA, and now wants to bring privatized law enforcement to Canada.

Coffee break's over!!

Edit: The address on the Contact Us section of the website provides a residential address (Google Street View).

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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby SupahDuck » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:11 pm

It's easier to be a result of the past, but more fun to be a cause of the future.

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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby GoodWitness » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:12 pm

Found his picture:

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Postby devilwoman » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm

How is it they call themselves "private police"?
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Postby Respond Wayne » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Churches require volunteer security teams?

Huh? :ponder:
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Postby TwE@k » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:34 pm

To the OP I posted this on the private side a few days ago. There is already some infor on this guy there.
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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby SupahDuck » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:42 pm

VanSmack wrote:
devilwoman wrote:How is it they call themselves "private police"?


Funny thing about that, I don't think the law about personating a police officer are negated by adding the word "Private" in front of it. I'd love to have one of these dipshits tell me that he was a private police officer.

"Is that a fact? here's your Appearance Notice, have a good time explaining that to the judge. In the meantime I'll be impounding your fancy police-esque car and duty gear as offence related property."


Maybe they provide "private police services" for iParkManagement?

Why are these companies trying so hard? :crazy:
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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby Pierre-Marc Larocque » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:24 am

I'm just having a hard time figuring out what it is exactly that they are about!

Initially, I thought that they were a security company, because of this:
Another one of our goals is to become a vital member of the community by working with both police (services & officers) and Government officials to help provide community and neighborhood safety.
To provide services such as criminal apprehension, traffic response units, building premises checks, cash-in-transit services, staff and vehicle escorts etc.
(hence itchy fingers to the MCSCS Compliance Branch) but I find this:
At this time we do not provide off-duty officers for regular or “normal” security services.
(Off-duty from what?)
(Wouldn't do well anyways b/c i looked up the registrant list on the MCSCS and there is no licence issued to any of the names associated with this "agency" :twitch: )

Wow. Just wow.

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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby GoodWitness » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:47 am

Pierre-Marc Larocque wrote:PS: @Goodwitness: Where did you manage to find a tinfoil hat for your cat? I've been looking everywhere for one to match mine while we take our nightly strolls!


LOL, doesn't that cat look pissed off?

Clearly this "business" is completely bogus and would never get legitimate work, but let's face it, there are a lot of people out there who are either stupid enough, or desperate enough, to think it's real. For example, a family member looking for a kid on the run might decide a "bounty hunter" is the way to go, etc.

Scary stuff. And until he actually tries to conduct business in one of these clearly off-limits areas, I bet nothing can be done. And I bet he doesn't wear the tinfoil hat when he meets with prospective clients.

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Postby Pete Broccolo » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:44 pm

Trying to transpose the US bounty-hunter crap into maple-flavoured male bovine bowel movement excretion.

Private security firms have their place - as long as they know where, and what, it is.
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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby devilwoman » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:25 pm

Funny thing about that, I don't think the law about personating a police officer are negated by adding the word "Private" in front of it. I'd love to have one of these dipshits tell me that he was a private police officer.


Yeah, I was thinking that myself.

Here's what I don't get....why do so many security companies come off like this? I know ADT had marked cars, pretty slick uniforms, etc....but ADT sold us to their clients for what we were....professionals who knew ADT systems inside and out and would give them the response service they wanted. The cars were advertising and highly visible (clients liked that) and our uniforms weren't mean to promote a "police" look....just a professional security look. ADT even had "Alarm response" on the front and rear of our vests. We were "security professionals".....not private police. It was never promoted as that. We were promoted as an extension to the alarm system, not a replacement to police. I think that's why, for the most part, our interactions with police services were positive ones.

Companies, and the owners of such companies, such as this, make me sooooooooo glad I'm out of the industry. F&^%g whack jobs.

Private security firms have their place - as long as they know where, and what, it is.


Yeah, they do. They need to focus on better hiring and training requirements and providing a quality security service.....alarm response/patrol is a great thing (reduces police dealing with useless false alarms) and there is no shame in providing such service. You only serve to come off as a loser when you try to be more than what you are.
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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby Pierre-Marc Larocque » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:08 pm

The hits keep on rolling!

Private Policing: The Private Police Unit is a division of the Federal Marshals Service, a Private Law Enforcement provider based out of London, Ontario.
We are able to respond to all Priority 2/3 calls and all non-emergency calls freeing up more officers for investigations and Priority 1 or 911 calls.

The Federal Marshals Service will work with the local Police Service, giving them more time to do active investigation and enforcement while being able to leave Priority2/3 and non emergency calls to us…To accomplish this role it is necessary for our law enforcement personnel to be well trained and highly motivated persons.
For the majority of our services our officers are very carefully chosen people who must have law enforcement training at a post secondary level or have previous police employment in the civilian law enforcement or military field. This will ensure that only persons who are motivated, skilled, and career oriented are used to fulfill our client’s needs.

No personnel of the Federal Marshals Service will be placed on assignment without training and the full knowledge of his/her responsibilities and duties.

This is what differentiates the average Municipal Law Enforcement/Security Officer from an officer with the Federal Marshals Service.

For more information on our Private Policing Unit and their duties please contact us.


Oh, to be a fly on the wall when this outfit meets with a "local police service" when they explain how the Marshals will solve their every woes: "Yeah, yeah, just give us some money and some cool gear, and we'll go out and free up youz staff so that youz can focus and answering those priority 1 calls that go unanswered all the time ( :twitch: )". "What we lack in credentials, chief, we more than make up in hours playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3!"

I love this part:

For the majority of our services our officers are very carefully chosen people who...
I wonder how they choose their people for the other services? (emphasis mine)

I'm hoping to jeebus that these guys aren't actually out there driving around London "protecting and serving" the citizens. They'd be putting themselves, residents and first responders at risk by playing Dog the Bounty Hunter!

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Re: Local intel req'd

Postby GoodWitness » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:15 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is the work of one peculiar individual with a vivid imagination. Kind of a "build it and they will come" sort of thing.


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