The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

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The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby OntarioNavy » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:36 pm

I've been hearing/seeing some people worrying that they may be on a "blacklist" for policing. Is this a thing? If so..

How do you wind up on it?
Can you remove yourself with time?
Is it only for one service, or all?
Is it a database, or word of mouth?

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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Fonthill » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:53 pm

OntarioNavy wrote:I've been hearing/seeing some people worrying that they may be on a "blacklist" for policing. Is this a thing? If so..

How do you wind up on it?
Can you remove yourself with time?
Is it only for one service, or all?
Is it a database, or word of mouth?


The best answer is. You will never know and I am sure nobody going to say on here.

But, common sense says , human rights legislation comes in play and the answer is, NO

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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Proteus » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:08 am

OntarioNavy wrote:I've been hearing/seeing some people worrying that they may be on a "blacklist" for policing. Is this a thing? If so..

How do you wind up on it?
Can you remove yourself with time?
Is it only for one service, or all?
Is it a database, or word of mouth?


How do you wind up on it?

Murder, sexual assault, impaired driving, etc.

Can you remove yourself with time?

That would defeat the purpose of a "blacklist."

Is it only for one service or all?

Yes.

Is it a database or word of mouth?

Database.

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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Inspir » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:13 pm

Well I can neither confirm nor deny. But you could always make a privacy act request. You can make a request for disclosure online for a federal agency. I takes like two minutes and I did it just out of curiosity to only find out how boring I am.

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Postby OntarioNavy » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:48 pm

Inspir wrote:Well I can neither confirm nor deny. But you could always make a privacy act request. You can make a request for disclosure online for a federal agency. I takes like two minutes and I did it just out of curiosity to only find out how boring I am.


Wouldn't agencies look negatively on you if you did that and tried to apply in the future?

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Postby Ziggy Stardust » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:56 pm

I've heard that wearing a tin foil hat to the interview will circumvent them detecting that you are on "the list".
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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Rareform » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:09 pm

OntarioNavy wrote:
Inspir wrote:Well I can neither confirm nor deny. But you could always make a privacy act request. You can make a request for disclosure online for a federal agency. I takes like two minutes and I did it just out of curiosity to only find out how boring I am.


Wouldn't agencies look negatively on you if you did that and tried to apply in the future?


I don't see why, it is within your right to ask for that information...
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Postby OntarioNavy » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:36 pm

Ziggy Stardust wrote:I've heard that wearing a tin foil hat to the interview will circumvent them detecting that you are on "the list".


Oh really? I'll have to make sure I wear my baseball hat for my next interview then!

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Postby Ziggy Stardust » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:39 pm

"The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching." - John Wooden

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Postby mack_silent » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:23 pm

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Just don't wear it during a thunderstorm.
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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Pete Broccolo » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:22 am

Of course it doesn't! Now, if you could just look this way a moment - pardon me while I put my sunglasses on.
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Postby OntarioNavy » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:43 am

Pete Broccolo wrote:Of course it doesn't! Now, if you could just look this way a moment - pardon me while I put my sunglasses on.


Lol! If one DID Pete, how do you think someone may end up on it? failing a BGI? Untruthfulness? Bad reference? Debt? Not being 6'2"?

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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Pete Broccolo » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:46 am

OntarioNavy wrote:
Pete Broccolo wrote:Of course it doesn't! Now, if you could just look this way a moment - pardon me while I put my sunglasses on.


Lol! If one DID Pete, how do you think someone may end up on it? failing a BGI? Untruthfulness? Bad reference? Debt? Not being 6'2"?

If anyone is REALLY worried about being on a black list, they probably DESERVE to be on one.
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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby OntarioNavy » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:38 am

Haha fair enough, thank you.
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Re: The Blacklist - Does it Exist?

Postby Dave Brown » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:28 am

Starting two threads on exactly the same topic is not going to endear yourself to either the recruiters who read this forum or other forum members, ESPECIALLY when your question was already answered in your other thread.

There are some things you don't seem to be understanding, even though several people have tried to help you.
#1 - No police agency owes you a job even if you check all the boxes.
#2 - Recruiters don't owe you an explanation.

Recruiters can share information and if you are rejected at one agency, you need to disclose that, but an actual black list of failed applicants makes no sense. It is about as real as chemtrails.

Think about it. How would a black list work if it were to exist at all? Every agency has their own standards. Plus, how well is it working if several working police officers on this forum have already told you that they or their colleagues once failed a BGI and still got hired.

This was the best advice you will EVER receive on the topic. I suggest you read it again. Asking the same question over and over again is not going to change the answer.
Toonces wrote:I failed a background once. I still have no idea what about. I didnt contact anyone demanding answers, I didnt do a freedom of information act request, I just decided to improve on all aspects before applying again. I just celebrated my 10 years with another service and I've been truly happy and thankful it all worked out the way it did.

Live your life, look within yourself as to what you learned from your past mistakes or how you took responsibility for your past actions and find ways you can improve your interview skills. Unless they deferred you permanently, apply again in two years. If you are serious enough about the job, you will be serious enough about living your life and trying again.


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