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Most effective LE martial art

Postby KRASHED » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:05 pm

Hey all,

Now that I'm in the field of law enforcement and surrounded by various degrees of criminals all day as a special constable I'm looking into taking a martial arts class in my spare time.

I'm not looking to go all superhero I just would like some training on how to manage myself in a close quarters situation. It's something that happens often enough here.

What sort of martial art should I look into?
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Postby Hired Goon » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:43 pm

You will probably get as many opinions as there are members on the board. In a similar thread a while back, the vast majority of members recommended Rex Kwon Do.
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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby 48highlander » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:57 pm

Frank Dux Ryu.

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Postby Apollo » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:34 pm

You're dealing with inmate between courts and correctional facilities. They will likely be wearing baggy clothes or orange jump suites.

Take judo. Grabbing their clothes for take downs is like grabbing a gi.

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Postby KRASHED » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:57 pm

Apollo wrote:You're dealing with inmate between courts and correctional facilities. They will likely be wearing baggy clothes or orange jump suites.

Take judo. Grabbing their clothes for take downs is like grabbing a gi.


I'm in the courts as well as transport. Another member suggested Brazilian jui jitsu with good reasoning.

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Postby facetha » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:59 pm

Sign up for a local MMA gym and mix the classes up, no one martial art is the best martial art...

Get a few chosen techniques and practice them often in your rolling sessions; i.e.: armbar take down, single leg, knee on belly can also be useful. perhaps not the neck cranks or chokes :smirk:

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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby Mongo » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:56 pm

Hired Goon wrote: In a similar thread a while back, the vast majority of members recommended Rex Kwon Do.

This. I have studied Rex for years and to be honest, I have gained the wisdom of a man.

Plus they use the buddy system, no more flying solo.
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Postby TheCanadian » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:11 pm

Mongo wrote:
Hired Goon wrote: In a similar thread a while back, the vast majority of members recommended Rex Kwon Do.

This. I have studied Rex for years and to be honest, I have gained the wisdom of a man.

Plus they use the buddy system, no more flying solo.

Now be honest, your really do Rex for the girls...
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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby cyrusdm » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm not sure what your physical abilities are, but assuming you're not in fantastic shape you are probably better off spending your time in the gym lifting weights and doing some high intensity cardio than worrying about martial arts.


That said, for police officers I would personally suggest bjj. You're not going to stand and strike with a bad guy...and if you do you're probably not being very smart as one punch to the head could knock you out and leave your gun open for the taking. BJJ will teach how to control a fight on the ground, whether that's on top or on the bottom. Judo is all fine and dandy but if you've ever done Judo in a Gi and then tried to do the same throws while holding onto normal clothing...it doesn't work the same way, the clothing stretches or tears too much.

BJJ for sure

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Postby el_prez » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:45 am

Just watch bloodsport and you'll be fine.
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Postby facetha » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:42 am

cyrusdm wrote:I'm not sure what your physical abilities are, but assuming you're not in fantastic shape you are probably better off spending your time in the gym lifting weights and doing some high intensity cardio than worrying about martial arts.


That said, for police officers I would personally suggest bjj. You're not going to stand and strike with a bad guy...and if you do you're probably not being very smart as one punch to the head could knock you out and leave your gun open for the taking. BJJ will teach how to control a fight on the ground, whether that's on top or on the bottom. Judo is all fine and dandy but if you've ever done Judo in a Gi and then tried to do the same throws while holding onto normal clothing...it doesn't work the same way, the clothing stretches or tears too much.

BJJ for sure


Yah i love jits for sure but I dunno how acceptable it will be to pull guard and sweep from the bottom in a professional setting. I also see BJJ guys getting exploited in MMA fights being stuck at the bottom on the receiving end of a mean ground and pound.

That why you gotta mix it up, emphasis on wrestling, not only for take downs but body position in various scenarios and staying on top (or standing)

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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby cyrusdm » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:24 pm

facetha wrote:
cyrusdm wrote:I'm not sure what your physical abilities are, but assuming you're not in fantastic shape you are probably better off spending your time in the gym lifting weights and doing some high intensity cardio than worrying about martial arts.


That said, for police officers I would personally suggest bjj. You're not going to stand and strike with a bad guy...and if you do you're probably not being very smart as one punch to the head could knock you out and leave your gun open for the taking. BJJ will teach how to control a fight on the ground, whether that's on top or on the bottom. Judo is all fine and dandy but if you've ever done Judo in a Gi and then tried to do the same throws while holding onto normal clothing...it doesn't work the same way, the clothing stretches or tears too much.

BJJ for sure


Yah i love jits for sure but I dunno how acceptable it will be to pull guard and sweep from the bottom in a professional setting. I also see BJJ guys getting exploited in MMA fights being stuck at the bottom on the receiving end of a mean ground and pound.

That why you gotta mix it up, emphasis on wrestling, not only for take downs but body position in various scenarios and staying on top (or standing)



Well you certainly wont be pulling guard lol, and hopefully you don't end up on the bottom.

There are plenty of take downs to be learnt from the BJJ...nothing fancy, very much rooted in judo which of course is where BJJ hails from.

There's nothing wrong with wrestling, but imo you can learn enough wrestling on your own while being taught BJJ. Or, like was suggested, join a reputable MMA gym for a more well rounded look.
From personal experience though my bjj background helps in more ways than just what happens when i'm on the ground, much less on the bottom. It's helped for joint locks while standing, head control while standing and more than anything, it's given me very good physical fitness because it is tiring as all hell.

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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby rookie86 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:40 pm

Jiu Jitsu all the way!!!

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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby PHB » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:17 pm

The most important weapon you have in policing is your mouth. I always go for the verbal judo.
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Re: Most effective LE martial art

Postby TPS11 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:51 pm

PHB wrote:The most important weapon you have in policing is your mouth. I always go for the verbal judo.


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