GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Grantnsally » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:40 pm

Good afternoon Everyone!!!

Hope everyone is keeping safe and healthy during these times.

This actually my 1st post.

My timeline has been quite a while now, since the 2015/16 year. I have completed all of the steps successfully with the last of my security clearance being granted in DEC 2019, but have now received the “written exam” notice for June 15th to be completed on the 18th.

Not sure what that is but if anyone can shine some light on this that would be great...I know it is because I didn’t have to do the testing before. Is it an essay format?

Thanks in advance

Grant

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby IronWolf » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:49 pm

Grantnsally wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:40 pm
Good afternoon Everyone!!!

Hope everyone is keeping safe and healthy during these times.

This actually my 1st post.

My timeline has been quite a while now, since the 2015/16 year. I have completed all of the steps successfully with the last of my security clearance being granted in DEC 2019, but have now received the “written exam” notice for June 15th to be completed on the 18th.

Not sure what that is but if anyone can shine some light on this that would be great...I know it is because I didn’t have to do the testing before. Is it an essay format?

Thanks in advance

Grant
May be a test like the one you were exempt from. I would research that. And I would research the OTEE. It is likely the things they want to examine are similar.

Below some info about OTEE :

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/job-emploi/ ... s-eng.html

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Grantnsally » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:55 pm

It was interesting because the email quoted that the question would be in a word document and to be answered in 1000-1500 words.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby IronWolf » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:58 pm

Grantnsally wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:55 pm
It was interesting because the email quoted that the question would be in a word document and to be answered in 1000-1500 words.
If it will cover specific subjects or policies that you need to prepare for, it should be in the email. If not, I guess they don't want you to prepare, just to be yourself when answering.

It will never hurt to review this : https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agen ... e-eng.html

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Alexn19 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:25 pm

IronWolf wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:20 pm
JDube wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:00 pm
IronWolf wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:25 am


It seems that this recent email was sent to pre-2019 applicants.

For us , the 2019 bunch, things will get a bit delayed I guess, 2021 or later, depends how fast these pandemic guidelines are lifted. And there's still hundreds of pre-2019 applicants to be trained.
But we know testing and training is not offered in any chronological order either. Just the usual waiting game.
You're right, I just assume they will let pre 2019 applicants with all steps completed go first.

Just an assumption, we never know.
Yes I have a feeling they prioritize pre 2019 applicants first but I guess we never really know the order. Patience is key just hope we won’t have to re do most of the tests again .. 😢
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Applied: 01/19
Interview: 06/19✔
Psych Test: 07/19✔
Psych Int: 08/19✔
Sec docs: sent 09/19✔
PARE: 10/19✔
Sec Interview: 11/19✔
Sec granted: 12/19✔
Medical: 11/20 ✔
OITP: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Grantnsally » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:32 pm

Did anyone else get the exempt letter? With the written exam sate.

Definitely know I am not alone.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby trey1998 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm

I’ve inquired about this before but just looking to get some info/experiences with the psych test as it is the next step for me once they start up again.

Is the psych test basically just finding out if you’re suitable to carry a firearm as mentioned on the website? Or is it a full personality assessment for the job itself?

Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
Applied: January 2019
OTEE: February 2019 (PASS)
Interview: December 2019 (PASS)

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Grantnsally » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:03 pm

trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
I’ve inquired about this before but just looking to get some info/experiences with the psych test as it is the next step for me once they start up again.

Is the psych test basically just finding out if you’re suitable to carry a firearm as mentioned on the website? Or is it a full personality assessment for the job itself?

Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
The psych is 2 test MMPI-2 and the 16pf

Don’t sweat and read to much into it...answer truthfully and be genuine. The interview with the psychologists will be the same just answer their questions truthfully and you will be fine.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby JDube » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:21 pm

trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
I’ve inquired about this before but just looking to get some info/experiences with the psych test as it is the next step for me once they start up again.

Is the psych test basically just finding out if you’re suitable to carry a firearm as mentioned on the website? Or is it a full personality assessment for the job itself?

Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
Honesty is the best policy in life and particularly in this line of work. The fail/pass stats are available somewhere, don't have the link handy, but I do believe that just like most steps at least half of the applicants fail. Going from memory, I might be wrong.
Quebec CBSA applicant timeline
Applied: Jan 16th 2019
OTEE: Feb 21-25th 2019 - Results March, Pass
Interview: May 27th 2019 - Results June Pass
Psych eval: September 2019 - Pass
Security papers - Sent November 2019
Integrity interview - March 2020

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby trey1998 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:53 pm

Grantnsally wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:03 pm
trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
I’ve inquired about this before but just looking to get some info/experiences with the psych test as it is the next step for me once they start up again.

Is the psych test basically just finding out if you’re suitable to carry a firearm as mentioned on the website? Or is it a full personality assessment for the job itself?

Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
The psych is 2 test MMPI-2 and the 16pf

Don’t sweat and read to much into it...answer truthfully and be genuine. The interview with the psychologists will be the same just answer their questions truthfully and you will be fine.
Thank you for the info! Definitely going to answer truthfully. The only thing that concerns me is that my personality in my personal life is a bit different than when I'm in work mode.

I was a by-law officer and during rush hour I could clear any parking infractions on the busiest street in the city, being very assertive and direct, but in my personal life I'm a really laid back guy, not a huge friend group but do enjoy concerts and social gatherings occasionally. I am curious how that would affect my answers to certain questions.
Applied: January 2019
OTEE: February 2019 (PASS)
Interview: December 2019 (PASS)

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby trey1998 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:55 pm

JDube wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:21 pm
trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
I’ve inquired about this before but just looking to get some info/experiences with the psych test as it is the next step for me once they start up again.

Is the psych test basically just finding out if you’re suitable to carry a firearm as mentioned on the website? Or is it a full personality assessment for the job itself?

Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
Honesty is the best policy in life and particularly in this line of work. The fail/pass stats are available somewhere, don't have the link handy, but I do believe that just like most steps at least half of the applicants fail. Going from memory, I might be wrong.
Thanks for the info! But that is surprising, I guess it's something that you just can't prepare for and need to hope for the best.
Applied: January 2019
OTEE: February 2019 (PASS)
Interview: December 2019 (PASS)

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby IronWolf » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:37 pm

trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
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Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
75% of the ones that got to Psych test, failed, at least at the time. Not sure if the % now is similar.

"The CBSA application assessment process trend is as follows (percentages are approximations): The Agency loses 50% at the initial screening, of those remaining 50% fail BSOT. Of those that pass BSOT 75% fail at the interview stage, and of the successful applicants that pass the interview another 75% fail the psychological testing.
Source: The CBSA HR, National Border Services Officer Recruitment Presentation Deck, July 2009."

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby trey1998 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:52 pm

IronWolf wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:37 pm
trey1998 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:58 pm
...
Also, how common is it to pass or fail the psych? (Do a majority pass?)

Thanks!
75% of the ones that got to Psych test, failed, at least at the time. Not sure if the % now is similar.

"The CBSA application assessment process trend is as follows (percentages are approximations): The Agency loses 50% at the initial screening, of those remaining 50% fail BSOT. Of those that pass BSOT 75% fail at the interview stage, and of the successful applicants that pass the interview another 75% fail the psychological testing.
Source: The CBSA HR, National Border Services Officer Recruitment Presentation Deck, July 2009."
Those numbers are surprising. Definitely puts into perspective the competition of the whole process. I hope I can land in that 25% pass range then, proud at how far I have come regardless though.
Applied: January 2019
OTEE: February 2019 (PASS)
Interview: December 2019 (PASS)

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hsinom » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:21 pm

Grantnsally wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:32 pm
Did anyone else get the exempt letter? With the written exam sate.

Definitely know I am not alone.

A few of us got it including me which is normal. Check your pm
CBSA BC
Applied- Aug 2017
Inventory/Doc sent- Dec 2017
Interview- Sept 2018
Security Sent- Sept 2018
Psych - Oct 2018
Medical - Feb 2019/Mar 2020
Pare- April 2019/Oct 2020
Security Interview - May 2019
Security Clearance- Dec 2019
OITP- ?
Rigaud- ?

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby A North » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 am

IronWolf wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:25 am
Alexn19 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:20 am
JDube wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:03 am
Nothing yet. Still waiting on my medical invite. Or second language evaluation.
Yes I’m in the same position as you just waiting on the medical invite. I’ll cross my fingers it’s somewhere in the near future! Good luck ahead
It seems that this recent email was sent to pre-2019 applicants.

For us , the 2019 bunch, things will get a bit delayed I guess, 2021 or later, depends how fast these pandemic guidelines are lifted. And there's still hundreds of pre-2019 applicants to be trained.
This also assumes too, morbid thought I know, that anything from the Feds such as the implementation of the DRAP doesn't completely screw things up further. Not gonna lie, I've been a bit on edge myself with the incredible lack of transparency about what's going to be done to pay off the new debts.
CBSA
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: Postponed (CoVid-19)
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD


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