GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Boomboom72 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:49 pm

Kevlar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:20 pm
The whole process is hurry up and wait.

No rhyme or reason.

There is no special secret.

I near aced my OTEE, everything else was completed quickly, already a current employee with the feds in the same Public Safety umbrella as an officer (10 years) and I have a high priority status. Doesnt mean a thing to them.

As has been mentioned many times by many people. Dont put your life on hold. Just take each day as it comes and youll get the call. Am I disappointed they filled all the winter intakes when they had said that I would be looked at for the winter intakes? Sure, but it is what it is. Obviously priority doesnt matter in this process nor does experience, scores, initiative or anything else.
Literally in the exact same boat my friend, couldn’t have said it better myself !! Just trying to remain positive and take advantage of the career path I already have in hope of following my dream when I do get the call ;)
Applied: June 2018
OTEE: Sept 2018 (Passed)
Interview: Nov 2018 (Passed)
Psych: March 2019 (Passed)
Security / backround: April 2019 (Passed)
Pare: June 2019 (Passed)
Medical: June 2019 (Passed)
Integrity: August 2019 (Passed)
OITP: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby JDube » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:23 pm

Integrity interview March 5th. Seeing the timelines here I know I shouldn't get my hopes too high but still. Things are moving nicely so far!
Quebec CBSA applicant timeline
Applied: Jan 16th 2019
OTEE: Feb 21-25th 2019 - Results March, Pass
Interview: May 27th 2019 - Results June Pass
Psych eval: September 2019 - Pass
Security papers - Sent November 2019
Integrity interview - March 2020

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby A North » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:41 pm

JDube wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:23 pm
Integrity interview March 5th. Seeing the timelines here I know I shouldn't get my hopes too high but still. Things are moving nicely so far!
Glad to hear you have a date for this! Based on what I've read here just be dressed for success and answer questions embarrassingly honest haha. Will you need to travel for it?
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Interview: Postponed (CoVid-19)
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby SunnyBocephus » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:28 pm

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:05 am
IronWolf wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:25 pm
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:10 pm


Normally, no one from within the CBSA makes comments of this type especially here, however i do understand where your coming from. Having said that, and when you look from the top to those really bad, low class, really bad employers, even worst work conditions JOBS, i would say when you do become a BSO you'll be standing on that pedestal with the great Law Enforcement agencies. We have issues, yes and depending on certain regions you are absolutely correct, but there is always the opportunity for advancement if your bright and the farther away you get from POE the better, having done those Sh_tt_ ass jobs when i was a young man, i would say you can have a great career within the CBSA if you move around, not always easy in certain regions i know. I can say with pride that i am a Border Services Officer and i used to be called a Customs Officer and they are respected around the world.

And that's my 2 cents.
As it seems related, I will ask it now :

Ulcaster, is there any truth in the rumour that CBSA plans to assign/offer POE at Invite time in the future ?
And is there any plans to increase the allowance while in training to match Corrections and RCMP ?


It seems that the Mobility clause is one of the big issues for CBSA, causing low engagement in some cases and as confirmed per the Evaluation of the OIM model.

"While the intent of OIM is to permanently place officers at POEs that had identified a need for additional frontline resources, the continued prevalence of requests for transfer out of those POEs could indicate that the ideal placement model has not been found."
"The evaluation also highlighted several challenges that existed with the process used during the O&R phase of the OIM to assess and select candidates for the training program. The process was found to be too lengthy and the quality of the communication with the applicants/candidates required improvement. A limiting factor to an effective Application and Selection process has been the absence of an adequate information system to manage candidates. Stakeholders are aware of some of these challenges and are redesigning and launching a new Application and Selection process that is expected to improve the way in which candidates are assessed. Monitoring improvements to the new process will be important."

Here's a brief of the recommendations :

"Recommendations:
The findings of the evaluation led to the following seven Recommendations:

The Vice-President of Operations Branch, in consultation with the Vice-Presidents of Programs Branch and Human Resources Branch, should develop a multi-year, annually updated, Workforce Plan that considers the full range of factors to identify the optimum number, type and location of BSOs to meet operational needs. The Workforce Plan will need to include a placement strategy that allows identification of placement as early as possible in the OIM process;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should develop a national outreach and recruitment strategy that considers more effective and efficient screening processes, targets known gaps in BSO representation, such as gender, gaps in BSO staffing at specific POEs, and operational language requirements. The strategy should be updated annually to provide revised targets and priority areas for outreach activities conducted by the regions;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should review the training stipend provided during the OITP to improve CBSA’s competitiveness to attract quality candidates;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should develop a performance measurement framework for the OIM (including all phases), and ensure that improvements in the efficiency and effectiveness of the new Recruitment model are monitored;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should develop a plan to improve the case management of individuals throughout all phases of the OIM;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch, in consultation with the Vice-President of Programs Branch and the Vice-President of Operations Branch, should:
Identify how and at which phase of the OIM the competencies for new BSOs will be assessed, with particular attention to the OIDP; and
Identify training needs for new BSOs and determine appropriate phase(s) in which training is delivered;

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should review the tools and length of the OIDP. A reduction to the existing timeline to be eligible for appointment (currently at 12 months minimum) should be considered; and

The Vice-President of Human Resources Branch should conduct a comprehensive Gender-Based Analysis to identify the specific barriers that affect the experiences of individuals of different backgrounds (i.e., gender, race, socio-economic status, age, etc.) in all phases of the OIM."
You have the same information i have, Management has accepted all the recommendations and have started to, we will have to see for the next competition which will be harder to get in and timed, coming around April.

Is April the next competition?

I am seeing advertisements at career fairs lately in BC. Curious as to when the posting will go up.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Ulcaster555 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am

Boomboom72 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:49 pm
Kevlar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:20 pm
The whole process is hurry up and wait.

No rhyme or reason.

There is no special secret.

I near aced my OTEE, everything else was completed quickly, already a current employee with the feds in the same Public Safety umbrella as an officer (10 years) and I have a high priority status. Doesnt mean a thing to them.

As has been mentioned many times by many people. Dont put your life on hold. Just take each day as it comes and youll get the call. Am I disappointed they filled all the winter intakes when they had said that I would be looked at for the winter intakes? Sure, but it is what it is. Obviously priority doesnt matter in this process nor does experience, scores, initiative or anything else.
Literally in the exact same boat my friend, couldn’t have said it better myself !! Just trying to remain positive and take advantage of the career path I already have in hope of following my dream when I do get the call ;)
H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hkhachik » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:09 am

Does anyone know how stat holidays work while you're in Rigaud? Are there classes during holidays? I will be in Rigaud during Easter, Victoria Day and Canada Day and I was wondering if I could drive back home for the long weekends.
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Applied: 10/17
Interview: 03/18✔
PARE: 04/18✔ + 08/19✔
Psych Test: 05/18✔
Psych Int: 05/18✔
Sec docs: sent 06/18✔
Medical: 09/18 ✔+ 09/19 ✔
Sec Interview: 06/19✔
Sec granted: 06/19✔
OITP: 02/20
Rigaud: 04/20

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby JDube » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:07 am

A North wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:41 pm
JDube wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:23 pm
Integrity interview March 5th. Seeing the timelines here I know I shouldn't get my hopes too high but still. Things are moving nicely so far!
Glad to hear you have a date for this! Based on what I've read here just be dressed for success and answer questions embarrassingly honest haha. Will you need to travel for it?
Really lucky there as well. The interview will be within an hour from home.
Quebec CBSA applicant timeline
Applied: Jan 16th 2019
OTEE: Feb 21-25th 2019 - Results March, Pass
Interview: May 27th 2019 - Results June Pass
Psych eval: September 2019 - Pass
Security papers - Sent November 2019
Integrity interview - March 2020

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Boomboom72 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:55 am

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am
Boomboom72 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:49 pm
Kevlar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:20 pm
The whole process is hurry up and wait.

No rhyme or reason.

There is no special secret.

I near aced my OTEE, everything else was completed quickly, already a current employee with the feds in the same Public Safety umbrella as an officer (10 years) and I have a high priority status. Doesnt mean a thing to them.

As has been mentioned many times by many people. Dont put your life on hold. Just take each day as it comes and youll get the call. Am I disappointed they filled all the winter intakes when they had said that I would be looked at for the winter intakes? Sure, but it is what it is. Obviously priority doesnt matter in this process nor does experience, scores, initiative or anything else.
Literally in the exact same boat my friend, couldn’t have said it better myself !! Just trying to remain positive and take advantage of the career path I already have in hope of following my dream when I do get the call ;)
H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
Makes a lot of sense, I feel like the winter intakes were definitely done with expiring Cat III as priority when I just looked at some peoples timelines... It also makes sense that it would be the medical that would be the last step as it expires the quickest and there probably is a pretty hefty cost to these medicals ( having them be renewed several times doesn't help)
Applied: June 2018
OTEE: Sept 2018 (Passed)
Interview: Nov 2018 (Passed)
Psych: March 2019 (Passed)
Security / backround: April 2019 (Passed)
Pare: June 2019 (Passed)
Medical: June 2019 (Passed)
Integrity: August 2019 (Passed)
OITP: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby hsinom » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:04 am

Boomboom72 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:55 am
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am
Boomboom72 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:49 pm


Literally in the exact same boat my friend, couldn’t have said it better myself !! Just trying to remain positive and take advantage of the career path I already have in hope of following my dream when I do get the call ;)

H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
Makes a lot of sense, I feel like the winter intakes were definitely done with expiring Cat III as priority when I just looked at some peoples timelines... It also makes sense that it would be the medical that would be the last step as it expires the quickest and there probably is a pretty hefty cost to these medicals ( having them be renewed several times doesn't help)
Literally my last step to redo.I emailed both medical(no response) and recruitment (Auto generated response) about my medical renewal date but I still haven't received one. Even though I got a email at the end of January stating it's upcoming I believe they are still Haven't got a date or they are delaying it on purpose to align it for the next intakes
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Applied- Aug 2017
Inventory/Request for Docs- Dec 2017
Interview- Sept 2018
Security Sent- Sept 2018
Psych - Oct 2018
Medical - Feb 2019/Mar 2020 Renewal
Pare- April 2019
Security Interview - May 2019
Security Clearance- Dec 2019
OITP- ?
Rigaud- ?

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby Boomboom72 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:20 am

hsinom wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:04 am
Boomboom72 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:55 am
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am



H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
Makes a lot of sense, I feel like the winter intakes were definitely done with expiring Cat III as priority when I just looked at some peoples timelines... It also makes sense that it would be the medical that would be the last step as it expires the quickest and there probably is a pretty hefty cost to these medicals ( having them be renewed several times doesn't help)
Literally my last step to redo.I emailed both medical(no response) and recruitment (Auto generated response) about my medical renewal date but I still haven't received one. Even though I got a email at the end of January stating it's upcoming I believe they are still Haven't got a date or they are delaying it on purpose to align it for the next intakes
Several weeks back I emailed recruitment as well to ask for an update regarding my medical renewal and was informed that I can rest assured that they have sent my information to the regional health Canada office in order to have it done in priority. So I took it as a positive, and I hope to get it sooner rather then later to avoid any further delays in the possibility of getting an invite.
Applied: June 2018
OTEE: Sept 2018 (Passed)
Interview: Nov 2018 (Passed)
Psych: March 2019 (Passed)
Security / backround: April 2019 (Passed)
Pare: June 2019 (Passed)
Medical: June 2019 (Passed)
Integrity: August 2019 (Passed)
OITP: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby waiting001 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:05 am

jwlong wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:33 pm
Does anyone but chance know if invites go out this month or do they skip February’s and wait till March.
Just a curious question.
If the schedule hasn't changed for 16A cohort than invites should go out in April.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby PSC2016 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:27 pm

Does anyone know if you can do the SLE/achieve a bilingual BSO status after Rigaud or is it strictly pre-Rigaud?

I’m on the fence about Bilingual status, & would like know if I saying no to the SLE pre-Rigaud would end my chances of getting bilingual status in the future?

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby cbmcmsa » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:13 pm

PSC2016 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:27 pm
Does anyone know if you can do the SLE/achieve a bilingual BSO status after Rigaud or is it strictly pre-Rigaud?

I’m on the fence about Bilingual status, & would like know if I saying no to the SLE pre-Rigaud would end my chances of getting bilingual status in the future?
You can always volunteer to do this after the fact. I would recommend this route vs going in BIL for several reasons. Let yourself get acclimated to the job, learn from colleagues, then do the SLE if you really want.
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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby dankmb » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:49 pm

hsinom wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:04 am
Boomboom72 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:55 am
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am



H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
Makes a lot of sense, I feel like the winter intakes were definitely done with expiring Cat III as priority when I just looked at some peoples timelines... It also makes sense that it would be the medical that would be the last step as it expires the quickest and there probably is a pretty hefty cost to these medicals ( having them be renewed several times doesn't help)
Literally my last step to redo.I emailed both medical(no response) and recruitment (Auto generated response) about my medical renewal date but I still haven't received one. Even though I got a email at the end of January stating it's upcoming I believe they are still Haven't got a date or they are delaying it on purpose to align it for the next intakes


I did my medical last March and they emailed me in January saying that it was expiring soon and to do my PARE before they'd send me to make the appointment. I emailed back with the date that my PARE is scheduled yesterday and asked if I should make an appointment with my family doctor and use the same forms as last time - they emailed me back this morning and said they'd follow up shortly when i can book my medical appt. Assuming they want the PARE done before though. hard to say, seems like everyone is getting mixed answer and timelines. It really depends who you get doin your file I think.

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Re: GENERAL CBSA APPLICANT CHIT CHAT

Postby IronWolf » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:14 pm

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 am
Boomboom72 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:49 pm
Kevlar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:20 pm
The whole process is hurry up and wait.

No rhyme or reason.

There is no special secret.

I near aced my OTEE, everything else was completed quickly, already a current employee with the feds in the same Public Safety umbrella as an officer (10 years) and I have a high priority status. Doesnt mean a thing to them.

As has been mentioned many times by many people. Dont put your life on hold. Just take each day as it comes and youll get the call. Am I disappointed they filled all the winter intakes when they had said that I would be looked at for the winter intakes? Sure, but it is what it is. Obviously priority doesnt matter in this process nor does experience, scores, initiative or anything else.
Literally in the exact same boat my friend, couldn’t have said it better myself !! Just trying to remain positive and take advantage of the career path I already have in hope of following my dream when I do get the call ;)
H.R/Recrutement, the most disorganized department in the agency, just heard that they now say CATIII is the last step because of the time restraints.
Makes perfect sense if they have more than enough candidates in the pool already, I applaud them for that (delaying Medical for applicants that for sure can't make it to 2020 intakes anyway), for actually timing the steps that do expire, to avoid waste of time for applicants to re-do steps and $$$ wasted for the agency.

Only if they can also now sync the applicant preferred Region to the available POEs to fill at intake time, and will be Perfect !

Way to go, CBSA HR, keep it up !


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