ygu31 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:08 am
TheSlav wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:24 am
Well, I was at the very last step of federal corrections and failed the psych interview. Provincial corrections was supposed to be my waiting period until I could apply again.
I have 3 friends who work at EMDC and I have heard of a lot of issues as you say in provincial corrections. I haven’t heard that it’s in “crisis”, can you elaborate a bit on that?
I see you applied both Federal and ON Provincial correction, as I have experience working in both, so I would like to share some of my insight views, especially for your concern about “issues” in ON Correction.
In short, correction is a very great career. I have been working with 4 different correction jurisdictions in the past 18 years, which include 1 foreign jail and 3 different Canadian correctional jurisdictions, my overall experience and comments about correction is mainly POSITIVE.
Since you mentioned your concern about ON correction, I will focus on ON correction.
True, I strongly agree Fonthill’s opinion: Ontario Provincial CO job is a stressful job, but it is still a very rewarding career for the following reasons:
1. You will work with really great staff member. Majority of the COs support each other (at least, all COs at my workplace fully supported each others, I do not want generalize all other ON provincial jails with this part). At work, you may not get along with all peers, but when assistance is needed, they will be there and back you up, even include the one who doesn’t get along with you. I have tons of touching stories about how my fellow officers supported me, backed me up at my very traumatic moments at both work and family life.
2. Good paycheques if you don’t mind OT: one of my colleagues made 100K+ in his first year with starting wage, that was even before the 14.5% pay increase (the new union collective agreement). He bought a brand new truck and boat in his first year at ON correction.
2. You may overheard other people say ,”COs quit their jobs because of other staff, not inmates” or “Correction is full of rumor mill and gossip”, but I personally think that is NOT 100% true. Correction is mainly a routine type work, staff member has lots of down time, it is inevitable that gossips spread around during the downtime chitchat. But like I mentioned: your peers will be there when you need them. No matter what personal issue you had with them in the past. “Trust your colleagues the way they trust you, support them the way they support you.”
3. You will develop very good law enforcement experience and it will eventually benefit you if you are looking for other peace officer positions in future. I saw lots of Ontario COs successfully moved to better paid jobs (CSC, CBSA, Policing, etc), which includes myself. I do appreciate the CO experience I gained from Ontario.
4. You may overheard COs (especially in ON) complained about the management. I would say do not fall into that: we have our ground and position as COs, while the management also have their positions, the institution management faces way more stress than the frontline officer does (although it is different kind of stress). Management team are the middle-man between the front line officer and the ministry, the institution management received stress and blame from both COs/union and the ministry. Sometimes, management even have to take blames for frontline officers’ fault from the ministry. If there is a conflict between you and the management, don’t take it personal as it is their position vs your position. Respect your deputy and/or superintendent, they are under-appreciated and misunderstood quite often.
5. Once you stepped into ON correction, you are eligible to apply many internal job postings in Ontario Government. Believe or not, there are more internal job postings compare to which only opens to general public. Even if you realize that CO is not the job for you, you will have way more other selections in ON government. (I did see many COs get hired by other internal postings such as provincial POs and other office positions)
Don’t get me wrong, as NOT ALL jails are stressful workplaces, it varies dramatically ( I would not mention the name of each individual jail to avoid encouraging or discouraging applicants to apply specific institutions):
1. My first Canadian correction job is at MB in a large institution, the workload is very little, super relaxed environment, majority of inmates are very respectful toward staff member. In average, I saw less than 1 assaulting staff member incident per year (which is a lot safer compare to most of the other private sector jobs, such as truck drivers, gas station cashier, or handyman). Certain staff members even personally believe that they were over-paid compare to what they did at work. I even think my biggest challenge at work is to stay awake (as most part of the shift, you really had nothing to do other than sitting and count your fingers). A quick stats to backup my statement: Along with MB provincial correction’s history, ONLY ONE officer was killed on duty because of an inmate assault which was in 1937 (83 years ago). Safe place to work with less stress compare to ON provincial.
2. My next Canadian Correctional officer jobs is in ON provincial correction. It is pretty stressful: staff were assaulted quite often (I don’t want to mention HOW often). But I still consider it is a very good workplace as all team member support each others. I enjoy working there with those great people.
3. My current correctional job is at federal level, I don’t want to make many comment as I am still new. But I think this is the BEST Canadian correctional facility to work with. ALL COs in this institution are happy for their job and I heard nothing but good comment from them about work (quite unusual due to the nature of correction job). I had a feeling that I won lottery for working in this institution. :-)
4. Again, correction work environment various. Even between two institutions next to each other in the same complex field will have huge difference. One could be 10X more stressful compare to the other, it is a pick and choose game or you can google and research.
My final comment about ON provincial correction jobs: Yes, you will work in a stressful environment, expose yourself to potential PTSD, and you are apparently underpaid compare to what you will eventually go through at work when you compare to other Canadian correctional jurisdictions. But you are working with great staff member, gaining valuable experience, making good paycheque and being eligible for internal job posting. So, IT IS A REWARDING CAREERS AND WORTHY A TRY.
My PERSONAL opinion only. Be advised: “how good is very good to me” and “how good is very good to you” may not be the same. Whatever I mentioned is just a rough reference.
Because I am typing on my phone, so bare with me for the wired spelling errors :-)
Ps: don’t let yourself down for failing the federal psych evaluation (MMPI-2), I was also unsuccessful in year 2013 for the same test as I was overthinking each questions (quite common the the 1st timers). But I was successful on my next attempt, you will eventually do better next time. Keep trying as the baby-boomer generation’s retirement will make CSC recruits massively in the next few years.
Good luck and looking forward to seeing you in this field :-)