Ontario Correctional Services

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby dwightschrute » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:36 pm

Fonthill wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:20 pm
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Anyone have info on Stratford? Was offered a position there yesterday and haven’t accepted it yet. I looked through for info but some of it is from a couple years ago
Retirement post.

From what I heard of hours at one point, no Ot and causals did not receive their 40 hours. Way below.

If you are looking to get full time there I would say you would be waiting 7-10 years.

If there was a good jail to work at in the province, that would be an excellent retirement post.
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Ah okay. I ended up turning down Stratford and asked to be waitlisted, any idea how that works? The recruitment manager told me it's pretty low-risk that I won't be offered something, but just curious if people ever go without an offer after that.
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Like, wait list to do COTA or already a CO and waiting for a transfer ?

Happens all the time people turn down and wait.

But, rumour on the street is they are re-amping COTA and no classes set in stone.
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A wait list to do COTA. Asking because I turned it down based off some advice I got, now I’m worried I may not get another offer.

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:33 am

dwightschrute wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:36 pm
Fonthill wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:20 pm
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Anyone have info on Stratford? Was offered a position there yesterday and haven’t accepted it yet. I looked through for info but some of it is from a couple years ago
Retirement post.

From what I heard of hours at one point, no Ot and causals did not receive their 40 hours. Way below.

If you are looking to get full time there I would say you would be waiting 7-10 years.

If there was a good jail to work at in the province, that would be an excellent retirement post.
Ah okay. I ended up turning down Stratford and asked to be waitlisted, any idea how that works? The recruitment manager told me it's pretty low-risk that I won't be offered something, but just curious if people ever go without an offer after that.
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Like, wait list to do COTA or already a CO and waiting for a transfer ?

Happens all the time people turn down and wait.

But, rumour on the street is they are re-amping COTA and no classes set in stone.
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A wait list to do COTA. Asking because I turned it down based off some advice I got, now I’m worried I may not get another offer.
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Best answer would be from H.R.

But from what I heard hiring process along with training officers has come to a halt

Next time, take the offer train. Once you pass and go to your jail. Do whatever you gotta do to have a job.

But I understand why people turn down the COTA training and at the end of the day you will have to live with that decision.

What COTA date did you turn down ?
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby ksowa91 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Hello

Happy to say, I finally got my conditional offer for Toronto South starting Mar 23 (Hamilton COTA). Just wanted to clarify one thing, I know its been discussed earlier but I'm kind of worried.

The recruiter stated that following 2 months of unpaid college training, I will be training at my institution for about a month (which also supposed to be unpaid). I've heard from other people on here that once at the institution we are being paid.

Could someone clarify on that point.

Greatly appreciated

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby mca » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:50 pm

You will be getting paid once you start your standing orders and training at TSDC.

Happy to say, I finally got my conditional offer for Toronto South starting Mar 23 (Hamilton COTA). Just wanted to clarify one thing, I know its been discussed earlier but I'm kind of worried.

The recruiter stated that following 2 months of unpaid college training, I will be training at my institution for about a month (which also supposed to be unpaid). I've heard from other people on here that once at the institution we are being paid.

Could someone clarify on that point.

Greatly appreciated
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:45 pm

ksowa91 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:34 pm
Hello

Happy to say, I finally got my conditional offer for Toronto South starting Mar 23 (Hamilton COTA). Just wanted to clarify one thing, I know its been discussed earlier but I'm kind of worried.

The recruiter stated that following 2 months of unpaid college training, I will be training at my institution for about a month (which also supposed to be unpaid). I've heard from other people on here that once at the institution we are being paid.

Could someone clarify on that point.

Greatly appreciated
I mean this in the most polite way. At any time during your training you could fail or get hurt. So, focus on passing and not getting hurt where you couldn’t finish and have no pay. Start to budget now. Trust me, you will feel it hard with no pay coming in. Try to work on the weekend part time of you can to make little money

You are always going to get paid in corrections. Corrections is an ATM. Unlimited money to pay employees.
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby TheSlav » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:42 pm

Hi guys!

I’m sorry to bother you guys with such a question, but who did I write my cover letter to or which department?

Do address it to “Minister of the Solicitor General”?

I can find the address for Minister of the Solicitor General easily via google.

Applied: 12/10/218
Test: 01/31/18
Test Results: 02/11/19
Interview: 03/21/19
References: 04/03/19
Fingerprinting: 04/05/19
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Psych Test: 04/15/19
Health Assessment: 04/18/19
Psych Eval: 04/23/19 - failed

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:47 pm

TheSlav wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:42 pm
Hi guys!

I’m sorry to bother you guys with such a question, but who did I write my cover letter to or which department?

Do address it to “Minister of the Solicitor General”?

I can find the address for Minister of the Solicitor General easily via google.
Attention: Recruiting Or Human Resources

Long as your cover letter looks professional, doesn’t really matter

Good luck
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby TheSlav » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm

Fonthill wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:47 pm
TheSlav wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:42 pm
Hi guys!

I’m sorry to bother you guys with such a question, but who did I write my cover letter to or which department?

Do address it to “Minister of the Solicitor General”?

I can find the address for Minister of the Solicitor General easily via google.
Attention: Recruiting Or Human Resources

Long as your cover letter looks professional, doesn’t really matter

Good luck
Thank you!

Applied: 12/10/218
Test: 01/31/18
Test Results: 02/11/19
Interview: 03/21/19
References: 04/03/19
Fingerprinting: 04/05/19
Screening: 04/08/19
Psych Test: 04/15/19
Health Assessment: 04/18/19
Psych Eval: 04/23/19 - failed

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm

TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm
Fonthill wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:47 pm
TheSlav wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:42 pm
Hi guys!

I’m sorry to bother you guys with such a question, but who did I write my cover letter to or which department?

Do address it to “Minister of the Solicitor General”?

I can find the address for Minister of the Solicitor General easily via google.
Attention: Recruiting Or Human Resources

Long as your cover letter looks professional, doesn’t really matter

Good luck
Thank you!

Your very welcome

If I may make one suggestion. Apply to other jobs just not corrections. This isn’t a career. If you don’t know. Corrections is in crisis.

Good luck
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby estherrn2019 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:35 pm

Just read through the last several pages but have a couple of quick question.

Does or has anyone here worked in Hamilton recently at HWDC? Is it as terrible? What are the available hours like for a new CO? Opportunities for OT? Offered TSDC but the commute isn’t great.

Thanks!

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby TheSlav » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:24 am

Fonthill wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm
TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm
Fonthill wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:47 pm


Attention: Recruiting Or Human Resources

Long as your cover letter looks professional, doesn’t really matter

Good luck
Thank you!

Your very welcome

If I may make one suggestion. Apply to other jobs just not corrections. This isn’t a career. If you don’t know. Corrections is in crisis.

Good luck
Well, I was at the very last step of federal corrections and failed the psych interview. Provincial corrections was supposed to be my waiting period until I could apply again.

I have 3 friends who work at EMDC and I have heard of a lot of issues as you say in provincial corrections. I haven’t heard that it’s in “crisis”, can you elaborate a bit on that?

Applied: 12/10/218
Test: 01/31/18
Test Results: 02/11/19
Interview: 03/21/19
References: 04/03/19
Fingerprinting: 04/05/19
Screening: 04/08/19
Psych Test: 04/15/19
Health Assessment: 04/18/19
Psych Eval: 04/23/19 - failed

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:56 am

TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:24 am
Fonthill wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm
TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm


Thank you!

Your very welcome

If I may make one suggestion. Apply to other jobs just not corrections. This isn’t a career. If you don’t know. Corrections is in crisis.

Good luck
Well, I was at the very last step of federal corrections and failed the psych interview. Provincial corrections was supposed to be my waiting period until I could apply again.

I have 3 friends who work at EMDC and I have heard of a lot of issues as you say in provincial corrections. I haven’t heard that it’s in “crisis”, can you elaborate a bit on that?
Google crisis in corrections.

Look up human rights issue on corrections

Your 3 friends, must be new or in la la land
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby ygu31 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:08 am

TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:24 am
Fonthill wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm
TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm


Thank you!

Your very welcome

If I may make one suggestion. Apply to other jobs just not corrections. This isn’t a career. If you don’t know. Corrections is in crisis.

Good luck
Well, I was at the very last step of federal corrections and failed the psych interview. Provincial corrections was supposed to be my waiting period until I could apply again.

I have 3 friends who work at EMDC and I have heard of a lot of issues as you say in provincial corrections. I haven’t heard that it’s in “crisis”, can you elaborate a bit on that?

Hi, TheSlav,
I see you applied both Federal and ON Provincial correction, as I have experience working in both, so I would like to share some of my insight views, especially for your concern about “issues” in ON Correction.
In short, correction is a very great career. I have been working with 4 different correction jurisdictions in the past 18 years, which include 1 foreign jail and 3 different Canadian correctional jurisdictions, my overall experience and comments about correction is mainly POSITIVE.
Since you mentioned your concern about ON correction, I will focus on ON correction.
True, I strongly agree Fonthill’s opinion: Ontario Provincial CO job is a stressful job, but it is still a very rewarding career for the following reasons:
1. You will work with really great staff member. Majority of the COs support each other (at least, all COs at my workplace fully supported each others, I do not want generalize all other ON provincial jails with this part). At work, you may not get along with all peers, but when assistance is needed, they will be there and back you up, even include the one who doesn’t get along with you. I have tons of touching stories about how my fellow officers supported me, backed me up at my very traumatic moments at both work and family life.
2. Good paycheques if you don’t mind OT: one of my colleagues made 100K+ in his first year with starting wage, that was even before the 14.5% pay increase (the new union collective agreement). He bought a brand new truck and boat in his first year at ON correction.
2. You may overheard other people say ,”COs quit their jobs because of other staff, not inmates” or “Correction is full of rumor mill and gossip”, but I personally think that is NOT 100% true. Correction is mainly a routine type work, staff member has lots of down time, it is inevitable that gossips spread around during the downtime chitchat. But like I mentioned: your peers will be there when you need them. No matter what personal issue you had with them in the past. “Trust your colleagues the way they trust you, support them the way they support you.”
3. You will develop very good law enforcement experience and it will eventually benefit you if you are looking for other peace officer positions in future. I saw lots of Ontario COs successfully moved to better paid jobs (CSC, CBSA, Policing, etc), which includes myself. I do appreciate the CO experience I gained from Ontario.
4. You may overheard COs (especially in ON) complained about the management. I would say do not fall into that: we have our ground and position as COs, while the management also have their positions, the institution management faces way more stress than the frontline officer does (although it is different kind of stress). Management team are the middle-man between the front line officer and the ministry, the institution management received stress and blame from both COs/union and the ministry. Sometimes, management even have to take blames for frontline officers’ fault from the ministry. If there is a conflict between you and the management, don’t take it personal as it is their position vs your position. Respect your deputy and/or superintendent, they are under-appreciated and misunderstood quite often.
5. Once you stepped into ON correction, you are eligible to apply many internal job postings in Ontario Government. Believe or not, there are more internal job postings compare to which only opens to general public. Even if you realize that CO is not the job for you, you will have way more other selections in ON government. (I did see many COs get hired by other internal postings such as provincial POs and other office positions)

Don’t get me wrong, as NOT ALL jails are stressful workplaces, it varies dramatically ( I would not mention the name of each individual jail to avoid encouraging or discouraging applicants to apply specific institutions):
1. My first Canadian correction job is at MB in a large institution, the workload is very little, super relaxed environment, majority of inmates are very respectful toward staff member. In average, I saw less than 1 assaulting staff member incident per year (which is a lot safer compare to most of the other private sector jobs, such as truck drivers, gas station cashier, or handyman). Certain staff members even personally believe that they were over-paid compare to what they did at work. I even think my biggest challenge at work is to stay awake (as most part of the shift, you really had nothing to do other than sitting and count your fingers). A quick stats to backup my statement: Along with MB provincial correction’s history, ONLY ONE officer was killed on duty because of an inmate assault which was in 1937 (83 years ago). Safe place to work with less stress compare to ON provincial.
2. My next Canadian Correctional officer jobs is in ON provincial correction. It is pretty stressful: staff were assaulted quite often (I don’t want to mention HOW often). But I still consider it is a very good workplace as all team member support each others. I enjoy working there with those great people.
3. My current correctional job is at federal level, I don’t want to make many comment as I am still new. But I think this is the BEST Canadian correctional facility to work with. ALL COs in this institution are happy for their job and I heard nothing but good comment from them about work (quite unusual due to the nature of correction job). I had a feeling that I won lottery for working in this institution. :-)
4. Again, correction work environment various. Even between two institutions next to each other in the same complex field will have huge difference. One could be 10X more stressful compare to the other, it is a pick and choose game or you can google and research.

My final comment about ON provincial correction jobs: Yes, you will work in a stressful environment, expose yourself to potential PTSD, and you are apparently underpaid compare to what you will eventually go through at work when you compare to other Canadian correctional jurisdictions. But you are working with great staff member, gaining valuable experience, making good paycheque and being eligible for internal job posting. So, IT IS A REWARDING CAREERS AND WORTHY A TRY.

My PERSONAL opinion only. Be advised: “how good is very good to me” and “how good is very good to you” may not be the same. Whatever I mentioned is just a rough reference.

Because I am typing on my phone, so bare with me for the wired spelling errors :-)

Ps: don’t let yourself down for failing the federal psych evaluation (MMPI-2), I was also unsuccessful in year 2013 for the same test as I was overthinking each questions (quite common the the 1st timers). But I was successful on my next attempt, you will eventually do better next time. Keep trying as the baby-boomer generation’s retirement will make CSC recruits massively in the next few years.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing you in this field :-)
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby ygu31 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:07 am

ksowa91 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:34 pm
Hello

Happy to say, I finally got my conditional offer for Toronto South starting Mar 23 (Hamilton COTA). Just wanted to clarify one thing, I know its been discussed earlier but I'm kind of worried.

The recruiter stated that following 2 months of unpaid college training, I will be training at my institution for about a month (which also supposed to be unpaid). I've heard from other people on here that once at the institution we are being paid.

Greatly appreciated
After COTA, you are a paid employee even when you are at the institution for 3 weeks orientation/onsite-training (could be 2,3,4 weeks orientation depends on which institution you are going).
Also, please be advised, your first payday will be in your week 4 because the accounting clerk will need approximately 2 weeks to process your first 2 weeks’ paycheque.

Congrats, you will enjoy your training, the trainers are very friendly and supportive.
A few hints during COTA:
1. Don’t get injured, avoid physical contact game after class such as basketball; be gentle to your partners during use of force training and self defence training, don’t hurt them and don’t get hurt. I heard new recruits had to abort training previously because of injuries.
2. Maintain good behaviour in class and in public.If a recruit was unsuccessful during training, it is mainly behaviour issue or ethical issue. It is almost impossible to fail the academic test. All recruits were successful in my class: 192 out of 192 recruits graduated, 8 classes, 4 at OPC and 4 at Hamilton site.
Good luck with COTA. You will like it.
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby TheSlav » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:35 pm

ygu31 wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:08 am
TheSlav wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:24 am
Fonthill wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm



Your very welcome

If I may make one suggestion. Apply to other jobs just not corrections. This isn’t a career. If you don’t know. Corrections is in crisis.

Good luck
Well, I was at the very last step of federal corrections and failed the psych interview. Provincial corrections was supposed to be my waiting period until I could apply again.

I have 3 friends who work at EMDC and I have heard of a lot of issues as you say in provincial corrections. I haven’t heard that it’s in “crisis”, can you elaborate a bit on that?

Hi, TheSlav,
I see you applied both Federal and ON Provincial correction, as I have experience working in both, so I would like to share some of my insight views, especially for your concern about “issues” in ON Correction.
In short, correction is a very great career. I have been working with 4 different correction jurisdictions in the past 18 years, which include 1 foreign jail and 3 different Canadian correctional jurisdictions, my overall experience and comments about correction is mainly POSITIVE.
Since you mentioned your concern about ON correction, I will focus on ON correction.
True, I strongly agree Fonthill’s opinion: Ontario Provincial CO job is a stressful job, but it is still a very rewarding career for the following reasons:
1. You will work with really great staff member. Majority of the COs support each other (at least, all COs at my workplace fully supported each others, I do not want generalize all other ON provincial jails with this part). At work, you may not get along with all peers, but when assistance is needed, they will be there and back you up, even include the one who doesn’t get along with you. I have tons of touching stories about how my fellow officers supported me, backed me up at my very traumatic moments at both work and family life.
2. Good paycheques if you don’t mind OT: one of my colleagues made 100K+ in his first year with starting wage, that was even before the 14.5% pay increase (the new union collective agreement). He bought a brand new truck and boat in his first year at ON correction.
2. You may overheard other people say ,”COs quit their jobs because of other staff, not inmates” or “Correction is full of rumor mill and gossip”, but I personally think that is NOT 100% true. Correction is mainly a routine type work, staff member has lots of down time, it is inevitable that gossips spread around during the downtime chitchat. But like I mentioned: your peers will be there when you need them. No matter what personal issue you had with them in the past. “Trust your colleagues the way they trust you, support them the way they support you.”
3. You will develop very good law enforcement experience and it will eventually benefit you if you are looking for other peace officer positions in future. I saw lots of Ontario COs successfully moved to better paid jobs (CSC, CBSA, Policing, etc), which includes myself. I do appreciate the CO experience I gained from Ontario.
4. You may overheard COs (especially in ON) complained about the management. I would say do not fall into that: we have our ground and position as COs, while the management also have their positions, the institution management faces way more stress than the frontline officer does (although it is different kind of stress). Management team are the middle-man between the front line officer and the ministry, the institution management received stress and blame from both COs/union and the ministry. Sometimes, management even have to take blames for frontline officers’ fault from the ministry. If there is a conflict between you and the management, don’t take it personal as it is their position vs your position. Respect your deputy and/or superintendent, they are under-appreciated and misunderstood quite often.
5. Once you stepped into ON correction, you are eligible to apply many internal job postings in Ontario Government. Believe or not, there are more internal job postings compare to which only opens to general public. Even if you realize that CO is not the job for you, you will have way more other selections in ON government. (I did see many COs get hired by other internal postings such as provincial POs and other office positions)

Don’t get me wrong, as NOT ALL jails are stressful workplaces, it varies dramatically ( I would not mention the name of each individual jail to avoid encouraging or discouraging applicants to apply specific institutions):
1. My first Canadian correction job is at MB in a large institution, the workload is very little, super relaxed environment, majority of inmates are very respectful toward staff member. In average, I saw less than 1 assaulting staff member incident per year (which is a lot safer compare to most of the other private sector jobs, such as truck drivers, gas station cashier, or handyman). Certain staff members even personally believe that they were over-paid compare to what they did at work. I even think my biggest challenge at work is to stay awake (as most part of the shift, you really had nothing to do other than sitting and count your fingers). A quick stats to backup my statement: Along with MB provincial correction’s history, ONLY ONE officer was killed on duty because of an inmate assault which was in 1937 (83 years ago). Safe place to work with less stress compare to ON provincial.
2. My next Canadian Correctional officer jobs is in ON provincial correction. It is pretty stressful: staff were assaulted quite often (I don’t want to mention HOW often). But I still consider it is a very good workplace as all team member support each others. I enjoy working there with those great people.
3. My current correctional job is at federal level, I don’t want to make many comment as I am still new. But I think this is the BEST Canadian correctional facility to work with. ALL COs in this institution are happy for their job and I heard nothing but good comment from them about work (quite unusual due to the nature of correction job). I had a feeling that I won lottery for working in this institution. :-)
4. Again, correction work environment various. Even between two institutions next to each other in the same complex field will have huge difference. One could be 10X more stressful compare to the other, it is a pick and choose game or you can google and research.

My final comment about ON provincial correction jobs: Yes, you will work in a stressful environment, expose yourself to potential PTSD, and you are apparently underpaid compare to what you will eventually go through at work when you compare to other Canadian correctional jurisdictions. But you are working with great staff member, gaining valuable experience, making good paycheque and being eligible for internal job posting. So, IT IS A REWARDING CAREERS AND WORTHY A TRY.

My PERSONAL opinion only. Be advised: “how good is very good to me” and “how good is very good to you” may not be the same. Whatever I mentioned is just a rough reference.

Because I am typing on my phone, so bare with me for the wired spelling errors :-)

Ps: don’t let yourself down for failing the federal psych evaluation (MMPI-2), I was also unsuccessful in year 2013 for the same test as I was overthinking each questions (quite common the the 1st timers). But I was successful on my next attempt, you will eventually do better next time. Keep trying as the baby-boomer generation’s retirement will make CSC recruits massively in the next few years.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing you in this field :-)
Wow, such an amazing, detailed and humble reply! Thank you kind stranger.

I’m not that afraid of working in a more hostile and stressful environment. I have worked in some sketchy places while in security and interacted with countless criminals, mental health and troubled individuals. You mention there is more issues with COs and their peers, that is not so uncommon with every work place I have worked and everyone has this issue, so I’m not surprised any bit.

I am really keen on getting into CSC as it has many benefits and other career opportunity within the federal government. I am disappointed though that CSC uses a third party “doctor” to do administer testing and conduct interviews for MMPI-2 testing. Meanwhile I’ve been told by a coworker that CBSA is doing the MMPI-2 testing in house. That being said, a third party doctor gets paid PER person they evaluate (they get quite a bit of money per person) and they can fail anyone they deem not “Fit”. Hence making a lot of money the more people they fail as those same people will be back again in two years guaranteed to try again.

That’s okay though, I won’t allow a detached, privileged and smug doctor in Toronto make me think I’m not worthy of that job. In the meantime, I will go for provincial and gain some valuable experience.

Thanks again and all the beat endeavours in your career kind stranger!

Applied: 12/10/218
Test: 01/31/18
Test Results: 02/11/19
Interview: 03/21/19
References: 04/03/19
Fingerprinting: 04/05/19
Screening: 04/08/19
Psych Test: 04/15/19
Health Assessment: 04/18/19
Psych Eval: 04/23/19 - failed


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