Ontario Correctional Services

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby COFPC » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:23 am

RCMP37 wrote:Anyone know if the June 4th COTA program will be a full class? Seems to me there are only limited spots available in the GTA, maybe someone else would have more info on this? The June class will mark 11 months in the recruiting process for me, long haul thats for sure


As I understand it to be the June 4 intake will be 192, 96 at OPC and 96 at OCSC.

Invitations to training are based on institutional priority and needs.

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby RCMP37 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:32 pm

COFPC wrote:
RCMP37 wrote:Anyone know if the June 4th COTA program will be a full class? Seems to me there are only limited spots available in the GTA, maybe someone else would have more info on this? The June class will mark 11 months in the recruiting process for me, long haul thats for sure


As I understand it to be the June 4 intake will be 192, 96 at OPC and 96 at OCSC.

Invitations to training are based on institutional priority and needs.


Thank you for the information, very helpful

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:55 pm

JesseTDI wrote:Yea I don't think the lippy replies seem neccesary, dude was just asking a question and I've followed for the last 60 pages and haven't seen that one asked so it's helpful to me as well.


To All the future candidates out there, you have no clue what kind of job your coming into
Try going into an allegation/investigation interview and use the excuse of, I didn’t know the policy or law. The policy and standing orders were over 1000 pages long. Yeah, good luck ! Lol

Trust me, I wasn’t trying to outcast the person.

Future candidates, here is a link posted below on what to study for and what COTA is about

https://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/english ... ining.html

Good luck

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:50 pm

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8354 ... tal-visit/

After this, they better put in the budget tomorrow to arm all correctional officers to make the public safer while protecting the officer safety !

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Bitterman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:35 am

We had two CO's relieved if their inmate at gunpoint at the Hamilton General a few years ago...
That said... I don't see the need for arming CO's beyond what we already have.
If accosted by a gun/knife wielding person you're going to be told to just give them your keys and inmate.
'Not our job to shoot it out with bad guys...
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:00 am

Bitterman wrote:We had two CO's relieved if their inmate at gunpoint at the Hamilton General a few years ago...
That said... I don't see the need for arming CO's beyond what we already have.
If accosted by a gun/knife wielding person you're going to be told to just give them your keys and inmate.
'Not our job to shoot it out with bad guys...


I respect your opinion, but disagree.

With the new era we live in, there is a greater risk of threat against persons in law enforcement.
My opinion, anybody that is in the position of law enforcement should carry a sidearm just for the safety of the public and the officer out there that’s keeping the community safe. That would include special constable.

Maybe Doug Ford will change this ? In stead of a bill for inmate rights, bill-6, They should have a bill for correctional officers safety.

See link below of bill -6

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_ ... illID=5799

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Bitterman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:19 pm

Fonthill wrote:
Bitterman wrote:We had two CO's relieved if their inmate at gunpoint at the Hamilton General a few years ago...
That said... I don't see the need for arming CO's beyond what we already have.
If accosted by a gun/knife wielding person you're going to be told to just give them your keys and inmate.
'Not our job to shoot it out with bad guys...


I respect your opinion, but disagree.




That's fine...
I predict it'll never happen, for a whole variety of reasons.
Number one being cost and number two being that the employer doesn't really take officer safety seriously. We're all insured and therefore expendable.
They can't even keep everyone's mandatory training/re certs up to date as it is.. Lol
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:39 pm

Bitterman wrote:
Fonthill wrote:
Bitterman wrote:We had two CO's relieved if their inmate at gunpoint at the Hamilton General a few years ago...
That said... I don't see the need for arming CO's beyond what we already have.
If accosted by a gun/knife wielding person you're going to be told to just give them your keys and inmate.
'Not our job to shoot it out with bad guys...


I respect your opinion, but disagree.




That's fine...
I predict it'll never happen, for a whole variety of reasons.
Number one being cost and number two being that the employer doesn't really take officer safety seriously. We're all insured and therefore expendable.
They can't even keep everyone's mandatory training/re certs up to date as it is.. Lol



It might appear you are right ! Lol

All your points and concerns are valid!

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Bitterman » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:36 am

I wouldn't be surprised if the ministry eventually moves to hiring paid duty cops for all hospital escorts... We do it now with many, because we can't cover them all anyway.
I mean why pay to train and equip two $35/hr CO's to sit on an inmate at hospital when you can pay $120/hour plus for two cops.?
The added benefit being... If anything goes wrong during the escort... It's the cops that wear it and not the ministry of corrections.
I say let 'em have it... The cops get to make some easy gravy and I don't have to put up with my 12 hour shift with no relief/breaks turning into a 14 or 16 hour shift with no relief/breaks.
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby bunnel » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:21 pm

Bitterman wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the ministry eventually moves to hiring paid duty cops for all hospital escorts... We do it now with many, because we can't cover them all anyway.
I mean why pay to train and equip two $35/hr CO's to sit on an inmate at hospital when you can pay $120/hour plus for two cops.?
The added benefit being... If anything goes wrong during the escort... It's the cops that wear it and not the ministry of corrections.
I say let 'em have it... The cops get to make some easy gravy and I don't have to put up with my 12 hour shift with no relief/breaks turning into a 14 or 16 hour shift with no relief/breaks.

Hospital paid duties are LOVED by the boys and girls in Blue!

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:42 pm

bunnel wrote:
Bitterman wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the ministry eventually moves to hiring paid duty cops for all hospital escorts... We do it now with many, because we can't cover them all anyway.
I mean why pay to train and equip two $35/hr CO's to sit on an inmate at hospital when you can pay $120/hour plus for two cops.?
The added benefit being... If anything goes wrong during the escort... It's the cops that wear it and not the ministry of corrections.
I say let 'em have it... The cops get to make some easy gravy and I don't have to put up with my 12 hour shift with no relief/breaks turning into a 14 or 16 hour shift with no relief/breaks.

Hospital paid duties are LOVED by the boys and girls in Blue!


Yes they do.

This is where Doug Ford needs to come in and use correctional officers first. No need to pay police so we can keep the Inmates unlocked. Send the correctional officers out and keep the inmates locked in.
The union should be making this a point on the upcoming contract NOT to outsource work.
The liberals need to stop wasting tax payers dollar

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Bitterman » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:51 pm

Fonthill wrote:The union should be making this a point on the upcoming contract NOT to outsource work.



The union needs to do a lot of things... You know, b'sides feathering their own nest and and selling corrections down the river.
I don't think the outsourcing of escorts will end.
It's a far too easy, albeit expensive option.
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Lospollos » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:03 pm

Does anyone working at an institution or who has recently graduated COTA know if Ministry pays for CO's to get their shots for ex. Hep C etc?
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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Fonthill » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:08 pm

Lospollos wrote:Does anyone working at an institution or who has recently graduated COTA know if Ministry pays for CO's to get their shots for ex. Hep C etc?


Hep C is curable and I do believe only if you are infected, then you would start treatment and it is now covered by OHIP

Hep C prevention is mostly straightforward and involves being aware of anything that may come into contact with your blood. It is important to consider taking steps to prevent passing on the Hep C virus to others. Here are some ways to prevent spreading or contracting Hep C:

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Re: Ontario Correctional Services

Postby Bitterman » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:33 pm

Just an FYI....
Avoid getting bitten at all costs.
I've seen officers bitten where the inmate would not cooperate re. blood testing to rule out the HIV, Hep, cooties etc.

Of course this reminds me of a time long ago when confronted by an inmate who was a habitual biter and was threatening to bite again if we opened the cell door...
The inmate was ranting and raving... Threatening to bite when my partner, a very senior officer calmly asked in the most musical Scottish accent... How the hell are ye gunna bite with nay teeth in 'er fookin' head..?
The inmate took pause as if to consider the question posed... And then quickly became compliant.

'The good ol' days... Lol
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