RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby oxlemar » Fri May 29, 2020 4:26 pm

Silvaticus wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:25 pm
Speaking of getting things back on topic...

There are a few of us who are in the security clearance stage. I found this resource on the Treasury Board website I thought I'd share. Appendix B has a lot of info about the different levels of Security Clearance for the Government and gave me some insight as to why things take as long as it does. That recent whiney long post asked why RCMP members needed Top Secret clearance. Well, I should hope that if you are carrying inside a secure Government building, you need to have a decent security clearance first. Simple really. I have no knowledge of the internal workings of the RCMP, but I'm sure members can be assigned to different roles and waiting for security clearance at that stage would be wasted time.

Does anyone have any knowledge how this works with municipal partners when working with them? Do they have to get some sort of temporary security clearance or is their clearance through the Province?

https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.a ... 28115#appB
I'm not a member, but a former PSE that worked in an OCC. Your clearance is due to the type of information you'll have access to.

As for Top Secret for Depot, I'm speculating, but it may be due to the nature of information you'll be exposed to in conjunction with having less hiccups once you're posted upon completion of hte CTP. For example, you complete the CTP, get posted to a Federal Unit that requires TS, but you have to wait until your clearance is processed which can take anywhere from a couple of days to months.

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby VanSmack » Fri May 29, 2020 8:19 pm

Silvaticus wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:25 pm
Speaking of getting things back on topic...

There are a few of us who are in the security clearance stage. I found this resource on the Treasury Board website I thought I'd share. Appendix B has a lot of info about the different levels of Security Clearance for the Government and gave me some insight as to why things take as long as it does. That recent whiney long post asked why RCMP members needed Top Secret clearance. Well, I should hope that if you are carrying inside a secure Government building, you need to have a decent security clearance first. Simple really. I have no knowledge of the internal workings of the RCMP, but I'm sure members can be assigned to different roles and waiting for security clearance at that stage would be wasted time.

Does anyone have any knowledge how this works with municipal partners when working with them? Do they have to get some sort of temporary security clearance or is their clearance through the Province?

https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.a ... 28115#appB
The RCMP requires all it’s recruits to obtain a top secret security clearance for a number of reasons. Notwithstanding the assertion that most get posted to a small town where you might not think they would necessarily have access to anything super sensitive (actually most GD positions only require a “Secret” level clearance) the biggest reason that they require you to clear to the higher level is that there are plenty of positions in the RCMP where you are required to have a Top Secret clearance level, by clearing all applicants to the higher level (when they would already be doing most of the same work to clear you to Secret) they eliminate the possibility that they are hiring applicants who wouldn’t be able to attain the requisite security level for positions within the organization. There are other good reasons, but that’s the primary one.

A few other notes on Security Clearances;

-They aren’t like your BGI’s if you fail to obtain your security clearance for something, there’s no amount of “life experience” that’s somehow going to make your reliability improve enough to negate whatever it was that made you fail in the first place.
-While a fail may as well be a lifetime fail, obtaining a security clearance doesn’t automatically mean that everyone just assumes you’re good from there on out. A Top Secret clearance is only good for 5 years before it has to be renewed, a Secret level clearance for 10 years before renewal.
-At a minimum any RMs will be required to maintain a Secret level throughout their career, and depending on their role or position may have to obtain the higher rating. So that means that for all of you waiting on your SC wondering why it takes so long, those same units are also renewing the 5 and 10 year renewals as well as any status changes when a guy with Secret moves into a Top Secret role before his next renewal date comes up - and it happens for every employee of the Force with access to any sort of police information, from the people who clean the detachment floors to the Commissioner. Pretty much anyone you can think of who has unescorted access into controlled areas of an RCMP building has to have some sort of security clearance.
-Any outside agencies such as Municipal Police or other partner agencies who are going to be working out of our buildings or as part of an RCMP joint operation, etc. will all need to submit the paperwork for our security unit to clear them to the appropriate level. A clearance from their agency isn’t accepted by us, because we aren’t in a position to be able to just take anyone’s word for it.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby N_McKenna » Sat May 30, 2020 8:32 pm

Hey Van,

Is there any more info you can provide on this;


https://globalnews.ca/news/6981206/rcmp ... cing-memo/

If more municipal forces are established that will likely reduce the number of recruits needed by the RCMP significantly. Could this affect applicants currently in the process at all?


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