RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby azims » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:46 pm

KaterGator wrote:
John014 wrote:
ezontheii wrote:I have finally made it through to the medical psych evaluation and the medical. I'm assuming it is just like any other evaluation, but when it comes to the medical exam what is involved?



A Dr. looks at your junk and then asks you questions.
You take a hearing test.
Pretty standard.



"Junk"... LOL dying laughing. Yep, like a 12 year old.

Do they retest vision as well?

No..unless they have changed things now....

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby mountaindew » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:17 pm

Depot Web wrote:
ride365 wrote:I've looked the the "Depot fitness expectations guide" and it only shows 2.4km and 5km runs / bench press etc. I see above that some people have posted about 10km (possibly longer) runs as well. Are the runs timed per the fitness guide and are you expected to meet the times every single run? Just want to be clear that we need to meet the benchmark every time as i've seen mention of only needing to run to the best of your ability each time.

The first and last PARE tests have hard benchmarks. If you don't make 4:45 for the first PARE or 4:00 on the final, your cadet contract will be terminated, no questions asked.

Speaking of the PARE, if you're interested in how your level of fitness will compare to your future troopmates', the average score for PARE #1 is 3:30. If you're under that, great! Next step: work on that superior rating. If you're not there yet, there's a lot of advice on this board on how to improve your times.

All the other fitness goals are soft benchmarks. While you don't have to beat a specific time, you do have to demonstrate a maximum effort as you strive for continued improvement. Giving less than 100% may result in a file review and if the review shows a similar lack of effort in other areas, you may be recommended for termination.

Here are the suggested benchmarks and superior ratings for Fitness and Lifestyle:

2.4 km run
Male 10:15 (Superior rating: 8:55)
Female 11:30 (10:15)

5.0 km run
M 23:30 (20:15)
F 26:00 (22:45)

8.0 km run
M 41:30 (36:00)
F 45:30 (40:00)

Shuttle run
M 9.5 (11.5)
F 7.5 (9.5)

Push ups
M 35 (55)
F 22 (35)

Pull ups
M 7 (14)
F 2 (5)

Bench press
M 105% of your body weight (140%)
F 70% (90%)

PARE #3
M 4:00 (2:50)
F 4:00 (3:15)

There are also three uniform runs (wearing soft body armour and duty belt) and two interval runs. This one's easy to replicate at home and will help bring those PARE times down:

sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 200 m, jog 200 m
sprint 400 m, jog 400 m
sprint 200 m, jog 200 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m

If you need more motivation, there are optional challenges that can result in certificates or having your name added to a plaque in the Fitness Centre.

Running achievements: 325 km, 800 km and 1,600 km.
Swimming achievements: English Channel (1,290 lengths, 34.83 km), Lake Diefenbaker (6,000 lengths, 162 km)
Strength: Bench Press Club (M: 150% of body weight, F: 100%)

There's also the Terry Tycholis award for cadets who get superiors in all categories plus a running achievement.

A very recent graduate earned both the Lake Diefenbaker swimming achievement and the Terry Tycholis Award so yes, it is possible. He actually complete the Diefenbaker swim in only 18 weeks and ended up with 8,000 lengths by the end of training.

On the other hand, don't spend all your time in the gym working on that last superior rating when you still need work on your shooting, driving or studying. The Sergeant Major won't accept "I was busy working out" when you're asked why your boots aren't polished.



Anyone know if these benchmarks have changed since 2012?

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Silvaticus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:33 pm

azims wrote:
jesseg04 wrote:
Silvaticus wrote:Well, here we go. One more hurdle done. Passed the dreaded polygraph and heading to Psych and Medical tomorrow morning. Judging by others, it could be a bit of a wait from here on in. Looking forward to what the Psych Evaluation is all about. Tried not to do too much digging about it, don't want any preconceptions. Most of what I've noticed throughout the process with the RCMP is that it's always different from what you expect anyway.


..... I completed my initial medical tests (ecg, bloodwork, psych test) and am waiting to see if I need to meet with a psychiatrist.......

pyschologist not a psychiatrist...big difference !


Wasn't sure what to expect today, and you're definitely right. It was a psychologist and not a psychiatrist. Also saw the doc, who referred me to another doc so that they can refer me to a specialist. My application will be limbo for a while until the docs can decide whether it's a serious enough of a problem to derail my career. :banghead:
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Online App 16/05/2019
S/P Sent 06/06/2019
RMAQ 09/10/2019
RFI 16/10/2019
BGI 28/10/2019
PEP 26/11/2019
PEP Rec 02/12/2019
Med/Psych 29/01/2020
Med Cleared 05/02/2020
Sec start 05/02/2020

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Geogreen » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:11 am

Silvaticus wrote:
Wasn't sure what to expect today, and you're definitely right. It was a psychologist and not a psychiatrist. Also saw the doc, who referred me to another doc so that they can refer me to a specialist. My application will be limbo for a while until the docs can decide whether it's a serious enough of a problem to derail my career. :banghead:


I am sorry to hear Silvaticus. I think everyone now a days has a little something whether Diabetes, Pronation in the ankles or what have you. Stay confident and continue to show you want it and hopefully nothing will be derailed.

That being said, if not to personal, are you able to share the medical condition being review. If it is something that is shared by many applicants it might be beneficial to understand what to expect come medical review.

Good luck.
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App: May-16
REINSERTION NOTICE: Jun-16
SP SENT: Jun-16
**Oct 16-File Lost**
RMAQ: Feb 2017
PEP: Jan 2018
PEP REC: Feb 2018
PARE - Not required until DEPOT
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby jpsingh » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:23 am

Hi All Applicants

Did anyone go through PEP since new guidelines are in place ( since May 1, 2016 ). I am just curious to know about the time to get PEP rec after the polygraph exam. My PEP is done yesterday and I know it is too early to ask this question, but just curious .

Many Thanks

JS

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Postby Racer_2 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:24 am

mountaindew wrote:Anyone know if these benchmarks have changed since 2012?


Well, I received those benchmarks bellow that are slightly easier at the beginning of my process by my FC. She told me I should satisfy to those norms prior to Depot. So I don't know if the other benchmark is during Depot. Sorry it's in french but however.

course de 2,43 kilomètres (1,5 mille) en 10 min. 45 sec. (hommes) et en 12 minutes (femmes);
course de 4,86 kilomètres (3 milles) en 22 minutes (hommes) et en 24 minutes (femmes);
course de 8,1 kilomètres (5 milles) – de 40 à 45 minutes;
25 pompes (push-ups) (minimum);
6 tractions (pull-ups) (hommes) et 3 (femmes).
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Applied - Jan 15th 2018
SLE - Done already
GTC2 & WCPT - Feb 18
PARE - April 18
Interview - May 18
Sec. Forms - May 18
Psych - May 18
Medical - June 18
Sec. Int - November 18
OITP - February 18th 2019
Rigaud 13D - April 8th 2019

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby jpsingh » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:20 pm

Silvaticus wrote:Well, here we go. One more hurdle done. Passed the dreaded polygraph and heading to Psych and Medical tomorrow morning. Judging by others, it could be a bit of a wait from here on in. Looking forward to what the Psych Evaluation is all about. Tried not to do too much digging about it, don't want any preconceptions. Most of what I've noticed throughout the process with the RCMP is that it's always different from what you expect anyway.


Hi Silvaticus

Hopefully things are going great with you. I just want to know about time you waited for getting PEP results after the exam.

Many Thanks,

JS.

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Postby JunkyardDog » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:02 pm

jpsingh wrote:
Silvaticus wrote:Well, here we go. One more hurdle done. Passed the dreaded polygraph and heading to Psych and Medical tomorrow morning. Judging by others, it could be a bit of a wait from here on in. Looking forward to what the Psych Evaluation is all about. Tried not to do too much digging about it, don't want any preconceptions. Most of what I've noticed throughout the process with the RCMP is that it's always different from what you expect anyway.


Hi Silvaticus

Hopefully things are going great with you. I just want to know about time you waited for getting PEP results after the exam.

Many Thanks,

JS.


His/Her timeline says PEP was in May 2016 and Medical/ Psych was In June 2016... So sometime between those dates

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Postby accessdi » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:23 pm

I was wondering how all this running benchmarks can be the same for all seasons. It's logical to assume that running outdoor during the winter is harder.
mountaindew wrote:
Depot Web wrote:
ride365 wrote:I've looked the the "Depot fitness expectations guide" and it only shows 2.4km and 5km runs / bench press etc. I see above that some people have posted about 10km (possibly longer) runs as well. Are the runs timed per the fitness guide and are you expected to meet the times every single run? Just want to be clear that we need to meet the benchmark every time as i've seen mention of only needing to run to the best of your ability each time.

The first and last PARE tests have hard benchmarks. If you don't make 4:45 for the first PARE or 4:00 on the final, your cadet contract will be terminated, no questions asked.

Speaking of the PARE, if you're interested in how your level of fitness will compare to your future troopmates', the average score for PARE #1 is 3:30. If you're under that, great! Next step: work on that superior rating. If you're not there yet, there's a lot of advice on this board on how to improve your times.

All the other fitness goals are soft benchmarks. While you don't have to beat a specific time, you do have to demonstrate a maximum effort as you strive for continued improvement. Giving less than 100% may result in a file review and if the review shows a similar lack of effort in other areas, you may be recommended for termination.

Here are the suggested benchmarks and superior ratings for Fitness and Lifestyle:

2.4 km run
Male 10:15 (Superior rating: 8:55)
Female 11:30 (10:15)

5.0 km run
M 23:30 (20:15)
F 26:00 (22:45)

8.0 km run
M 41:30 (36:00)
F 45:30 (40:00)

Shuttle run
M 9.5 (11.5)
F 7.5 (9.5)

Push ups
M 35 (55)
F 22 (35)

Pull ups
M 7 (14)
F 2 (5)

Bench press
M 105% of your body weight (140%)
F 70% (90%)

PARE #3
M 4:00 (2:50)
F 4:00 (3:15)

There are also three uniform runs (wearing soft body armour and duty belt) and two interval runs. This one's easy to replicate at home and will help bring those PARE times down:

sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 200 m, jog 200 m
sprint 400 m, jog 400 m
sprint 200 m, jog 200 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m
sprint 100 m, jog 100 m

If you need more motivation, there are optional challenges that can result in certificates or having your name added to a plaque in the Fitness Centre.

Running achievements: 325 km, 800 km and 1,600 km.
Swimming achievements: English Channel (1,290 lengths, 34.83 km), Lake Diefenbaker (6,000 lengths, 162 km)
Strength: Bench Press Club (M: 150% of body weight, F: 100%)

There's also the Terry Tycholis award for cadets who get superiors in all categories plus a running achievement.

A very recent graduate earned both the Lake Diefenbaker swimming achievement and the Terry Tycholis Award so yes, it is possible. He actually complete the Diefenbaker swim in only 18 weeks and ended up with 8,000 lengths by the end of training.

On the other hand, don't spend all your time in the gym working on that last superior rating when you still need work on your shooting, driving or studying. The Sergeant Major won't accept "I was busy working out" when you're asked why your boots aren't polished.



Anyone know if these benchmarks have changed since 2012?

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Depot Web » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:14 pm

mountaindew wrote:Anyone know if these benchmarks have changed since 2012?


They have. Current suggested benchmarks are below. Superior benchmarks are in parenthesis.

PARE #1
M 3:26 (3:03)
F 3:59 (3:36)

PARE #2
M 3:11 (2:51)
F 3:39 (3:18)

PARE #3
M 3:06 (2:46)
F 3:35 (3:12)

5.0 km run
M 23:26 (20:19)
F 26:21 (23:04)

8.0 km run
M 41:10 (35:30)
F 45:30 (39:45)

Shuttle run
M 9.5 (11.5)
F 7.5 (9.5)

Push ups
M 39 (56)
F 24 (39)

Pull ups
M 8 (15)
F 2 (5)

Bench press
M 108.4% of your body weight (139.8%)
F 72% (91%)
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Depot Web » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:22 pm

accessdi wrote:I was wondering how all this running benchmarks can be the same for all seasons. It's logical to assume that running outdoor during the winter is harder.

Those times are for all year round and are based on an average of summer and winter runs. Our running paths are kept clear all winters long so you don't have to worry about ice and snow. Outdoor classes are moved indoors once it hits -25.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby John014 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:35 pm

Depot Web wrote:
accessdi wrote:I was wondering how all this running benchmarks can be the same for all seasons. It's logical to assume that running outdoor during the winter is harder.

Those times are for all year round and are based on an average of summer and winter runs. Our running paths are kept clear all winters long so you don't have to worry about ice and snow. Outdoor classes are moved indoors once it hits -25.


I beg to differ.
If you choose Law Enforcement you LOSE the right to be unfit.

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Shawshank » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:39 pm

139.8% seems oddly specific.
K division.

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby mountaindew » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:35 pm

Depot Web wrote:
mountaindew wrote:Anyone know if these benchmarks have changed since 2012?


They have. Current suggested benchmarks are below. Superior benchmarks are in parenthesis.

PARE #1
M 3:26 (3:03)
F 3:59 (3:36)

PARE #2
M 3:11 (2:51)
F 3:39 (3:18)

PARE #3
M 3:06 (2:46)
F 3:35 (3:12)

5.0 km run
M 23:26 (20:19)
F 26:21 (23:04)

8.0 km run
M 41:10 (35:30)
F 45:30 (39:45)

Shuttle run
M 9.5 (11.5)
F 7.5 (9.5)

Push ups
M 39 (56)
F 24 (39)

Pull ups
M 8 (15)
F 2 (5)

Bench press
M 108.4% of your body weight (139.8%)
F 72% (91%)


Thanks for the info!

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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby kingriley » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:18 pm

Anyone know how many troops are estimated for the next year?
RPAB - Nov. 2013
SP - Jan 2014
SP Sent - Feb 2014
PARE - May 2014
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