RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Discuss the educational and physical requirements, testing process and background phase involved in the hiring process. Includes the experiences and advice of current and past applicants. All agency application related questions belong here.
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Postby sehoonk90 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:32 am

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Postby macgillivaryaj » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:53 am

Canadianpatriot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:44 pm
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Canadianpatriot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:56 am

to get assigned to a different responsibilities or performing multiple challenging tasks, missions and a variety of duties spread in many different fields.


TL:DR : Keep your mouth shut and do your best to learn how to do the job you have to the best of your ability. It won't matter where ego geographically unless you use that opportunity to make yourself the best you can be at that job.
I appreciate your advices and guidance Van. It's really worth taking notes of.
Any H division applicants here received any updates regarding their PEP ?
I completed my PEP on Aug 17, 2020. Still awaiting results. As far as I know the first day they resumed these in H was Aug 10th 2020.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby Canadianpatriot » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:56 pm

macgillivaryaj wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:53 am
Canadianpatriot wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:44 pm
VanSmack wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:05 am


TL:DR : Keep your mouth shut and do your best to learn how to do the job you have to the best of your ability. It won't matter where ego geographically unless you use that opportunity to make yourself the best you can be at that job.
I appreciate your advices and guidance Van. It's really worth taking notes of.
Any H division applicants here received any updates regarding their PEP ?
I completed my PEP on Aug 17, 2020. Still awaiting results. As far as I know the first day they resumed these in H was Aug 10th 2020.
Interesting ... let's wait and see maybe next week we'll hear good stuff.
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Postby Pete Broccolo » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:07 pm

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Postby Goesby0805 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:35 pm

While waiting for my entrance exam and career presentation in late Sept, I tried to search some random data regarding RCMP demographics and actually got some interesting results.

There were 30000 personnel in RCMP in 2019, of which 19000 were police officers. (source 1)

RCMP enrolled 1280 Cadets to its training academy, Depot, in 201819. (source 2)

There are roughly 1100 applicants per month, that is 13200 applicants a year (source 3)

So the possibility of someone finishing all the hiring process and going to depot will be, 1280/13200, a whopping 9.7%!

Of that 13200 applicants, 21% of applications were from women, 14% from visible minorities, and 6% from Indigenous people (source 4). I guess if you are one of these groups the chances of you going to depot will likely be higher.



Source 1 https://www.statista.com/statistics/436 ... in-canada/
Source 2 https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/2018-2019 ... eport-full
Source 3 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-a ... -1.3887995
Source 4 https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/evaluatio ... owance-cra

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Postby Pho-fo-Sho » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:06 am

Goesby0805 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:35 pm
So the possibility of someone finishing all the hiring process and going to depot will be, 1280/13200, a whopping 9.7%!
There's also another big factor; attrition

10-15% of cadets might be terminated, quit or get back-trooped.

I have personally seen a troop graduate with approximately 20 cadets out of the "original" 32.
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Postby Canadianpatriot » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:18 am

Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:06 am
Goesby0805 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:35 pm
So the possibility of someone finishing all the hiring process and going to depot will be, 1280/13200, a whopping 9.7%!
There's also another big factor; attrition

10-15% of cadets might be terminated, quit or get back-trooped.

I have personally seen a troop graduate with approximately 20 cadets out of the "original" 32.
How many retire every year out of those 19k he mentionned ?

And do they automatically replace retiree with new recruits as soon as a vacancy becomes available ?

Any idea ?
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Postby Pho-fo-Sho » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:25 am

Canadianpatriot wrote: How many retire every year out of those 19k he mentionned ?

And do they automatically replace retiree with new recruits as soon as a vacancy becomes available ?

Any idea ?
I've seen numbers of around approximately 800 RMs retiring every year. Don't quote me on that. I was reading the Departmental Plans a while back and they mentioned retirements and laterals.

As for the latter; I have no idea.

There's a joke at Depot about how staffing just get drunk on the weekend and play darts with the cadets name on them and throw it on a map of Canada just to give them the most random postings.

But staffing does their job because of operational needs, first and foremost.
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Postby Canadianpatriot » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:46 am

Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:25 am
Canadianpatriot wrote: How many retire every year out of those 19k he mentionned ?

And do they automatically replace retiree with new recruits as soon as a vacancy becomes available ?

Any idea ?
There's a joke at Depot about how staffing just get drunk on the weekend and play darts with the cadets name on them and throw it on a map of Canada just to give them the most random postings.
Now Imagine if this was true haha :D
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Postby Shawshank » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:11 am

Canadianpatriot wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:46 am
Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:25 am
Canadianpatriot wrote: How many retire every year out of those 19k he mentionned ?

And do they automatically replace retiree with new recruits as soon as a vacancy becomes available ?

Any idea ?
There's a joke at Depot about how staffing just get drunk on the weekend and play darts with the cadets name on them and throw it on a map of Canada just to give them the most random postings.
Now Imagine if this was true haha :D
Of course it’s a joke. Staffing isn’t working on weekends.
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Postby BMAN-22 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:43 pm

Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:06 am
Goesby0805 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:35 pm
So the possibility of someone finishing all the hiring process and going to depot will be, 1280/13200, a whopping 9.7%!
There's also another big factor; attrition

10-15% of cadets might be terminated, quit or get back-trooped.

I have personally seen a troop graduate with approximately 20 cadets out of the "original" 32.
Mine graduated with 23 of the original 32. There certainly is attrition. The 6 months is a grind and you've got to prepare yourself for it.
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Re: RCMP APPLICANT GENERAL CHIT CHAT

Postby N_McKenna » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:51 pm

BMAN-22 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:43 pm
Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:06 am
Goesby0805 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:35 pm
So the possibility of someone finishing all the hiring process and going to depot will be, 1280/13200, a whopping 9.7%!
There's also another big factor; attrition

10-15% of cadets might be terminated, quit or get back-trooped.

I have personally seen a troop graduate with approximately 20 cadets out of the "original" 32.
Mine graduated with 23 of the original 32. There certainly is attrition. The 6 months is a grind and you've got to prepare yourself for it.
What would be the biggest reason for the attrition?

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Postby Canadianpatriot » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:00 pm

N_McKenna wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:51 pm
BMAN-22 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:43 pm
Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:06 am


There's also another big factor; attrition

10-15% of cadets might be terminated, quit or get back-trooped.

I have personally seen a troop graduate with approximately 20 cadets out of the "original" 32.
Mine graduated with 23 of the original 32. There certainly is attrition. The 6 months is a grind and you've got to prepare yourself for it.
What would be the biggest reason for the attrition?
Speaking out of my experience with the military.. I'd assume a mix of different things such as physical and mental exhaution, sleep deprivation, lack of confidence in the ability to keep up with the job, fear of the unknown and sometimes and most of the time is the intentional stress imposed by instructors on cadets to experiment their endurance to the work nature.

Edited to add: I don't think they would invite someone to Depot after a very lengthy app process, so they would tell them to go home for no reason.
I honestly think every applicant should be physically and mentally prepared for the worst...it's not a Job with the school board. Like Bman said it's a grind...
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Postby Pho-fo-Sho » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:17 pm

N_McKenna wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:51 pm
What would be the biggest reason for the attrition?
Could be a variety of reasons to be honest. Double failing certain benchmarks, home sick or HIPCAR violations.

Depends on the person.
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Postby BMAN-22 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:37 pm

Pho-fo-Sho wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:17 pm
N_McKenna wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:51 pm
What would be the biggest reason for the attrition?
Could be a variety of reasons to be honest. Double failing certain benchmarks, home sick or HIPCAR violations.

Depends on the person.
Yeah the two biggest are benchmark fails and cadets voluntarily leaving, at least from what I saw. Unfortunately there is the odd HIPCAR violation as well which I'll never understand... don't lie, don't cheat, and treat people with respect. It's mindblowing some of the stories I heard.
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