RCMP, now paying cadets in depot???

[Jim Street]

I can't sit and lie to you that post secondary makes you a better candidate. It does however give you a leg up on anyone with only high school. The problem is that it's very expensive to attend university, and many who worked after high school, instead of getting a degree may (everyone's different) lack the "life experience". I think you have to have a myriad of qualities gained, which I suppose you would usually find in someone in their late 20's who has had the post secondary and possibly gainfully employed, rather than the 18 year old who has had neither.

(As for the "nah's", it's when Nelson sings it, not the actual song)

[ArcticCop]

Do current POs' feel that lacking or minimal post secondary makes an applicant less "outstanding"?

Jim Street you are short 6 nah's.

No because Im f*****g awesome and I only finished high school.

[Jim Street]

No because Im f*****g awesome and I only finished high school.

A true sign that the Mounties will hire just about anyone.



























Kidding. At least I didn't say RCMP recruiting= Staffed by morons.

[VanB]

At least I didn't say RCMP recruiting= Staffed by morons.

In the RCMP the reason we don't have al large number of morons in staffing is because all the morons have been promoted beyond the ranks occupied by recruiting officers.

I don't think I've ever seen a whiteshirt running a recruiting event.

[paulb5]

I can't sit and lie to you that post secondary makes you a better candidate. It does however give you a leg up on anyone with only high school. The problem is that it's very expensive to attend university, and many who worked after high school, instead of getting a degree may (everyone's different) lack the "life experience". I think you have to have a myriad of qualities gained, which I suppose you would usually find in someone in their late 20's who has had the post secondary and possibly gainfully employed, rather than the 18 year old who has had neither.

(As for the "nah's", it's when Nelson sings it, not the actual song)

What you said those make alot of sense. But in some cases a 19 year old can still have post secondary and life experience. Exemple, if an applicant joined the army at 16 and worked during high school then went to college. This persone can still have a bit of both qualities. (going by my experience). I think it can go both ways but its not as common for 18-19 year olds.

[Apollo]

Life experiencing goes beyond just having a job or post secondary. It can be defined by hundreds of other things as well. You can have had a job since 16 and just graduated with a masters, but you can still lack life experience becuase through school you worked at Macdonald's serving fries and you don't know anything outside of a book.

It's not uncommon for a 19 year old to posses more maturity and life experience than a 25 year old. It's not uncommon and its not shocking, both have just had different life experiences.

Who are we do judge what constitutes life experience. It can be anything and everything, starting from the way one conducts themselves. It's unfair to say what age group has more life experience than another becuase each and ever person is different.

[Jim Street]

That's why I said everyone's different. Obviously it comes down to the investigator to find out and the powers-that-be to make the decision based on the background check.

Like I said, the process(es) are fickle, but there are, and have to be, ways to weed applicants out and acquire the best candidates.

[Gard]

I just read on my emails at work that the decision has been made to disband the RCMP. Apparently the last straw was the vast volume of the best recruits going elsewhere because of the pay issue. The fact that, somehow, the Force is going to have to live without them was devastating.

Tragic.

[IrishCanadian]

[Jim Street]

So you disagree Gard? BTW that sarcasm detector is off the charts!

[Gard]

My point is, love or hate the RCMP, we're still getting a lot of quality applicants. More than we can train at the moment.

But please continue...I love reading your take on the RCMP in the public and private forums.

[T.M.DIESEL]

My point is, love or hate the RCMP, we're still getting a lot of quality applicants. More than we can train at the moment.

But please continue...I love reading your take on the RCMP in the public and private forums.

So here is what I do not understand, we all know in a few years that all hell is going to break loose regarding retirements ect... Ministries are actually developing strategies to atract and maintain employees but it seems our Police Services are falling behind in the preperation.

If you have more than you can train and you know the shortage will only get worse soon, why not bite the bullet now and train as may as possible so at least you willl have a more senior constables in a few years from now and not a service with a large portion with two years or less in.

[Jim Street]

With regards to paying cadets, and quality of applicants, the Mounties were the prime example only because of their current recruitment drive and the fact they don't pay the cadets.

I have seen a few places that stopped paying recruits and/or have really low wages to start. I just have no doubt in my mind that this is a deciding factor when excellent candidates decide they won't be applying.

[T.M.DIESEL]

With regards to paying cadets, and quality of applicants, the Mounties were the prime example only because of their current recruitment drive and the fact they don't pay the cadets.

I have seen a few places that stopped paying recruits and/or have really low wages to start. I just have no doubt in my mind that this is a deciding factor when excellent candidates decide they won't be applying.

I agree with you there, we have a young kid on our Crew that could have gone with the Horseman but between moving god knows where and the cash part, he decide to be where he is as we had payed training and an excellent wage right out of the gate.

Just taking the 6 months into account would equal $26, 000 or so in lost wages and that would not include the other time trying to catch up to the pay grade.

[Hoodwinkle]

I have seen a few places that stopped paying recruits and/or have really low wages to start. I just have no doubt in my mind that this is a deciding factor when excellent candidates decide they won't be applying.

Aye!

Now I have been hearing interesting rumours at work about the RCMP possibly taking on armed CBSA members and allowing them to be fastracked through the hiring/training, retain their current pay and seniority. If this is true, I immediately know 10 plus officers who will be jumping ship. Now it could be fantasy or it could be one of the options the RCMP brass are looking into to help with their recruiting numbers.

Gard, seeing as you are/were assisting the arming course...any semblance of truth here as this is where the rumours are coming from.