Ask the CBSA!

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Ulcaster555 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:55 am

neggo wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 am
hsinom wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:01 am
[quote=neggo post_id=845243 time=<a href="tel:1580365511">1580365511</a> user_id=38932]
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does the CBSA, during the application process, ask about other law enforcement applications that an applicant has active? Does getting a deferral in the RCMP, for example, have any bearing on the CBSA application process?
It does and doesn’t in my experience. But I’d suggest apply and let them decide.
Thanks for the reply. So to confirm if I am understanding this correctly, they may or may not ask about whether or not an applicant has applied to different law enforcement agencies?
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In your integrity interview(Security) you will be asked about other Law Enforcement applications. If you have ay deferrals be prepared to provide them.
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Here to correct false and/or inaccurate information.
Ici pour corriger les informations fausses et/ou inexactes.

I do not speak on behalf of the CBSA.
Je ne parle pas au nom de l'ASFC.

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Boomboom72 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:42 am

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:55 am
neggo wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 am
hsinom wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:01 am
[quote=neggo post_id=845243 time=<a href="tel:1580365511">1580365511</a> user_id=38932]
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does the CBSA, during the application process, ask about other law enforcement applications that an applicant has active? Does getting a deferral in the RCMP, for example, have any bearing on the CBSA application process?
It does and doesn’t in my experience. But I’d suggest apply and let them decide.
Thanks for the reply. So to confirm if I am understanding this correctly, they may or may not ask about whether or not an applicant has applied to different law enforcement agencies?
In your integrity interview(Security) you will be asked about other Law Enforcement applications. If you have ay deferrals be prepared to provide them.
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This was the case with me as well, I provided my deferral letter and the rest was history, I guess they just want to confirm that you are upfront and honest about what and why you were deferred, most likely they already have this information at their disposal.
Applied: June 2018
OTEE: Sept 2018 (Passed)
Interview: Nov 2018 (Passed)
Psych: March 2019 (Passed)
Security / backround: April 2019 (Passed)
Pare: June 2019 (Passed)
Medical: June 2019 (Passed)
Integrity: August 2019 (Passed)
OITP: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby cbmcmsa » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:42 am

neggo wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 am
Thanks for the reply. So to confirm if I am understanding this correctly, they may or may not ask about whether or not an applicant has applied to different law enforcement agencies?

Any law enforcement agency you will apply to, yes even CBSA, does a thorough background investigation as part of your security clearance. Why do you think you provide so much detail in those forms. They vet what they feel is important. They talk to past and present employers, friends, family if they feel the need. Every part of your life is open and on display for them. They are very good at research, and have ways to see things you think they can't. So in short, it doesn't matter if they do or don't ask about other LE Processes you're in.... They already know.

The integrity interview is just that. Seeing whether or not your answers match what they know about you. So be honest, open, and ready to divulge potentially personal information.
Former SBSO PRA (CBSA)
App - 08/18
RPAB - 09/18
SP - 11/18
Suitability - 12/18
RMAQ - 02/19
RFI - 03/19
PEP - 05/19
Med/Psych - 05/19
Med/Psych Rec - 06/19
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby hsinom » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 am

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:55 am
neggo wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:13 am
hsinom wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:01 am
[quote=neggo post_id=845243 time=<a href="tel:1580365511">1580365511</a> user_id=38932]
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does the CBSA, during the application process, ask about other law enforcement applications that an applicant has active? Does getting a deferral in the RCMP, for example, have any bearing on the CBSA application process?
It does and doesn’t in my experience. But I’d suggest apply and let them decide.
Thanks for the reply. So to confirm if I am understanding this correctly, they may or may not ask about whether or not an applicant has applied to different law enforcement agencies?
In your integrity interview(Security) you will be asked about other Law Enforcement applications. If you have ay deferrals be prepared to provide them.
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As mentioned just be honest and tell them if you have. Probability is they would already know.
CBSA BC applicant:
Applied- Aug 2017
Inventory/Request for documents- Dec 2017
Interview- Sept 2018
Security Sent- Sept 2018
Psych - Oct 2018
Medical - Feb 2019
Pare- April 2019
Security Interview - May 2019
Security Clearance- Dec 2019
OITP- ?
Rigaud- ?

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby ikong0621 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:14 pm

Kharlvp wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:12 am
Does anyone know if the entrance exam is taken in a classroom or online at your home now? As well as what are the questions like? Does it include math because I can’t even do basic numbers I have a little bit of learning issue with math lol
OTEE is taken at home and at your own time. They will provide you the time and date range that you will have to complete the OTEE by. As for your question regarding the exam questions, no one can actually answer you, because of the non-disclosure agreement. However, a CBSA officer once told me that it is a aptitude test, so they are testing skills that you have already developed. That means, at the end of the day, you have either developed them already or you have not. Practice your math calculation as well if you forgot how to do it by hand already.
RCMP
Deferred until - 2025/12/05

Vancouver Police Department
Deferred until - 2020/05/22

CBSA
Applied - 2019/02/08
OTEE - 2019/03/15 PASS
Interview - TBA

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby ikong0621 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:17 pm

Hi guys,

I have passed the OTEE and have been waiting for the interview since March 2019. Just wondering if has something to do with the numbers of working locations I picked at the beginning of the application? And if so, can I contact CBSA to change my selection and hoping the process would be slightly faster?

Thanks in advance.
RCMP
Deferred until - 2025/12/05

Vancouver Police Department
Deferred until - 2020/05/22

CBSA
Applied - 2019/02/08
OTEE - 2019/03/15 PASS
Interview - TBA

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm

ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:17 pm
Hi guys,

I have passed the OTEE and have been waiting for the interview since March 2019. Just wondering if has something to do with the numbers of working locations I picked at the beginning of the application? And if so, can I contact CBSA to change my selection and hoping the process would be slightly faster?

Thanks in advance.
I've been waiting just as long and I selected every international airport and larger town in the country which is a pretty wide net in my opinion. I think it's probably just luck of the draw for us unfortunately. We may also be in a bit of limbo as we would have been the most recent wave (I think?) of applicants before the online application hiatus and incoming new application process.

For example, applicants are now required to have full unrestricted driver's licences BEFORE applying. I won't have mine until Tuesday if I'm lucky, which may be one of the reasons it's taken long for me.
CBSA (Bounced)
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby ikong0621 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:07 pm

A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm
ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:17 pm
Hi guys,

I have passed the OTEE and have been waiting for the interview since March 2019. Just wondering if has something to do with the numbers of working locations I picked at the beginning of the application? And if so, can I contact CBSA to change my selection and hoping the process would be slightly faster?

Thanks in advance.
I've been waiting just as long and I selected every international airport and larger town in the country which is a pretty wide net in my opinion. I think it's probably just luck of the draw for us unfortunately. We may also be in a bit of limbo as we would have been the most recent wave (I think?) of applicants before the online application hiatus and incoming new application process.

For example, applicants are now required to have full unrestricted driver's licences BEFORE applying. I won't have mine until Tuesday if I'm lucky, which may be one of the reasons it's taken long for me.
I have had the full license since the beginning, so I assume that is not the case. If that is really a lucky draw system, then it really sucks for us as they are still recruiting more applicants.
RCMP
Deferred until - 2025/12/05

Vancouver Police Department
Deferred until - 2020/05/22

CBSA
Applied - 2019/02/08
OTEE - 2019/03/15 PASS
Interview - TBA

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:52 pm

ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:07 pm
A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm
ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:17 pm
Hi guys,

I have passed the OTEE and have been waiting for the interview since March 2019. Just wondering if has something to do with the numbers of working locations I picked at the beginning of the application? And if so, can I contact CBSA to change my selection and hoping the process would be slightly faster?

Thanks in advance.
I've been waiting just as long and I selected every international airport and larger town in the country which is a pretty wide net in my opinion. I think it's probably just luck of the draw for us unfortunately. We may also be in a bit of limbo as we would have been the most recent wave (I think?) of applicants before the online application hiatus and incoming new application process.

For example, applicants are now required to have full unrestricted driver's licences BEFORE applying. I won't have mine until Tuesday if I'm lucky, which may be one of the reasons it's taken long for me.
I have had the full license since the beginning, so I assume that is not the case. If that is really a lucky draw system, then it really sucks for us as they are still recruiting more applicants.
I agree
CBSA (Bounced)
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby cbmcmsa » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:15 am

A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:52 pm
ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:07 pm
A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm


I've been waiting just as long and I selected every international airport and larger town in the country which is a pretty wide net in my opinion. I think it's probably just luck of the draw for us unfortunately. We may also be in a bit of limbo as we would have been the most recent wave (I think?) of applicants before the online application hiatus and incoming new application process.

For example, applicants are now required to have full unrestricted driver's licences BEFORE applying. I won't have mine until Tuesday if I'm lucky, which may be one of the reasons it's taken long for me.
I have had the full license since the beginning, so I assume that is not the case. If that is really a lucky draw system, then it really sucks for us as they are still recruiting more applicants.
I agree
Ask most recent OITPs how long it took them to get through the process, you probably won't get many saying less than 2 years. Be ready for the long haul when you apply, and be pleasantly surprised IF it's shorter.
Former SBSO PRA (CBSA)
App - 08/18
RPAB - 09/18
SP - 11/18
Suitability - 12/18
RMAQ - 02/19
RFI - 03/19
PEP - 05/19
Med/Psych - 05/19
Med/Psych Rec - 06/19
Sec Clearance - 07/19
Sec Clearance Rec -
Troop Offer -
Troop #

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Ulcaster555 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 am

cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:15 am
A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:52 pm
ikong0621 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:07 pm


I have had the full license since the beginning, so I assume that is not the case. If that is really a lucky draw system, then it really sucks for us as they are still recruiting more applicants.
I agree
Ask most recent OITPs how long it took them to get through the process, you probably won't get many saying less than 2 years. Be ready for the long haul when you apply, and be pleasantly surprised IF it's shorter.
2 years is about right, don't forget you also have the 12-18 months as an Officer trainee before becoming a full patch officer and a FB-03.
CBSA/ASFC

Here to correct false and/or inaccurate information.
Ici pour corriger les informations fausses et/ou inexactes.

I do not speak on behalf of the CBSA.
Je ne parle pas au nom de l'ASFC.

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby cbmcmsa » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am

Ulcaster555 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 am
cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:15 am
A North wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:52 pm


I agree
Ask most recent OITPs how long it took them to get through the process, you probably won't get many saying less than 2 years. Be ready for the long haul when you apply, and be pleasantly surprised IF it's shorter.
2 years is about right, don't forget you also have the 12-18 months as an Officer trainee before becoming a full patch officer and a FB-03.
^^ This exactly! One of the reasons Post-Secondary can help you is your competency essays during your FB-02. If your essays don't jive, you better get some help on them.
Former SBSO PRA (CBSA)
App - 08/18
RPAB - 09/18
SP - 11/18
Suitability - 12/18
RMAQ - 02/19
RFI - 03/19
PEP - 05/19
Med/Psych - 05/19
Med/Psych Rec - 06/19
Sec Clearance - 07/19
Sec Clearance Rec -
Troop Offer -
Troop #

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:24 pm

cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 am
cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:15 am


Ask most recent OITPs how long it took them to get through the process, you probably won't get many saying less than 2 years. Be ready for the long haul when you apply, and be pleasantly surprised IF it's shorter.
2 years is about right, don't forget you also have the 12-18 months as an Officer trainee before becoming a full patch officer and a FB-03.
^^ This exactly! One of the reasons Post-Secondary can help you is your competency essays during your FB-02. If your essays don't jive, you better get some help on them.
Thankfully writing is my strong suit! And by the sounds of it FB-02 is mostly essays which means there should be decent time to complete each. Are any of you able to say what they're based on? If I get in would I be basically doing a uni course of research/theory essays or would I be writing on actual observations and interactions at my PoE?

Also, I've been in the process for almost a year already and am still waiting on the interview...based on this timeline do you think I'll get in by this time next year-ish? Or am I Iooking at much longer than 2 years for my application period?
CBSA (Bounced)
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby cbmcmsa » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:30 pm

A North wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:24 pm
cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am
Ulcaster555 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 am


2 years is about right, don't forget you also have the 12-18 months as an Officer trainee before becoming a full patch officer and a FB-03.
^^ This exactly! One of the reasons Post-Secondary can help you is your competency essays during your FB-02. If your essays don't jive, you better get some help on them.
Thankfully writing is my strong suit! And by the sounds of it FB-02 is mostly essays which means there should be decent time to complete each. Are any of you able to say what they're based on? If I get in would I be basically doing a uni course of research/theory essays or would I be writing on actual observations and interactions at my PoE?

Also, I've been in the process for almost a year already and am still waiting on the interview...based on this timeline do you think I'll get in by this time next year-ish? Or am I Iooking at much longer than 2 years for my application period?
While an FB-02 you do the exact same job as an FB-03, depending on the port different responsibilities or roles might be assigned. You aren't just writing essays... you have to write essays to prove you've met competencies with examples signed off by sups. So on top of the reports you have to write for any thing you do/actual work you have to do, most people have a hell of a time making time for their competencies.


I applied to Bridge over almost a year to the day ago. My security clearance is taking as long as most regular people's do, so no one can say how long it'll be. Just keep living your life and hoping for the best.
Former SBSO PRA (CBSA)
App - 08/18
RPAB - 09/18
SP - 11/18
Suitability - 12/18
RMAQ - 02/19
RFI - 03/19
PEP - 05/19
Med/Psych - 05/19
Med/Psych Rec - 06/19
Sec Clearance - 07/19
Sec Clearance Rec -
Troop Offer -
Troop #

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:11 pm

cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:30 pm
A North wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:24 pm
cbmcmsa wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am


^^ This exactly! One of the reasons Post-Secondary can help you is your competency essays during your FB-02. If your essays don't jive, you better get some help on them.
Thankfully writing is my strong suit! And by the sounds of it FB-02 is mostly essays which means there should be decent time to complete each. Are any of you able to say what they're based on? If I get in would I be basically doing a uni course of research/theory essays or would I be writing on actual observations and interactions at my PoE?

Also, I've been in the process for almost a year already and am still waiting on the interview...based on this timeline do you think I'll get in by this time next year-ish? Or am I Iooking at much longer than 2 years for my application period?
While an FB-02 you do the exact same job as an FB-03, depending on the port different responsibilities or roles might be assigned. You aren't just writing essays... you have to write essays to prove you've met competencies with examples signed off by sups. So on top of the reports you have to write for any thing you do/actual work you have to do, most people have a hell of a time making time for their competencies.


I applied to Bridge over almost a year to the day ago. My security clearance is taking as long as most regular people's do, so no one can say how long it'll be. Just keep living your life and hoping for the best.
Thanks for the advice!
CBSA (Bounced)
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD


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