Ask the CBSA!

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Latch527 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:24 pm

I have some questions about how to join the marine unit and when I can do that after Rigaud. I would like to speak with someone who has experience with joining one if at all possible.

At what point can I be placed at a marine port of entry and join a marine unit?
Applied: 10/2016
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Borderwatchman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:42 am

Latch527 wrote:I have some questions about how to join the marine unit and when I can do that after Rigaud. I would like to speak with someone who has experience with joining one if at all possible.

At what point can I be placed at a marine port of entry and join a marine unit?
Halifax, Vancouver, an Mtl are the only ports that have marine/vessel units as far as I know. You, as a new hire, are mandated by policy to either go to a land border or airport. After you've passed probation and are a full FB03.....get in line and good luck.

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Latch527 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:09 pm

Borderwatchman wrote:
Latch527 wrote:I have some questions about how to join the marine unit and when I can do that after Rigaud. I would like to speak with someone who has experience with joining one if at all possible.

At what point can I be placed at a marine port of entry and join a marine unit?
Halifax, Vancouver, an Mtl are the only ports that have marine/vessel units as far as I know. You, as a new hire, are mandated by policy to either go to a land border or airport. After you've passed probation and are a full FB03.....get in line and good luck.
How does the process work? Is it a waiting game or an internal competition?
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Stone. » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:19 pm

Borderwatchman wrote:
Latch527 wrote:I have some questions about how to join the marine unit and when I can do that after Rigaud. I would like to speak with someone who has experience with joining one if at all possible.

At what point can I be placed at a marine port of entry and join a marine unit?
Halifax, Vancouver, an Mtl are the only ports that have marine/vessel units as far as I know. You, as a new hire, are mandated by policy to either go to a land border or airport. After you've passed probation and are a full FB03.....get in line and good luck.
Not true, there’s no policy stating new hires go to an airport or land border. You can go to a marine port right out of Rigaud.

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Postby Latch527 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Stone. wrote:
Borderwatchman wrote:
Latch527 wrote:I have some questions about how to join the marine unit and when I can do that after Rigaud. I would like to speak with someone who has experience with joining one if at all possible.

At what point can I be placed at a marine port of entry and join a marine unit?
Halifax, Vancouver, an Mtl are the only ports that have marine/vessel units as far as I know. You, as a new hire, are mandated by policy to either go to a land border or airport. After you've passed probation and are a full FB03.....get in line and good luck.
Not true, there’s no policy stating new hires go to an airport or land border. You can go to a marine port right out of Rigaud.
Where did you hear this? How can I give myself the best chance to get a marine port?
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Stone. » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:23 pm

Latch527 wrote:
Where did you hear this? How can I give myself the best chance to get a marine port?
How’s your luck?

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Postby Latch527 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:50 pm

Stone. wrote:
Latch527 wrote:
Where did you hear this? How can I give myself the best chance to get a marine port?
How’s your luck?
Ah. I see.
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby ValentineRH » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:36 pm

Hey guys, when do they ask for proof of the restricted/non-restricted firearms license proof?

And specifically, what should I have on hand for when they ask for it as proof?
I have the R/PAL card, and own some firearms... but I don't know what they'd want as proof.

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Postby kittycat1024 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:17 pm

ValentineRH wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:36 pm
Hey guys, when do they ask for proof of the restricted/non-restricted firearms license proof?

And specifically, what should I have on hand for when they ask for it as proof?
I have the R/PAL card, and own some firearms... but I don't know what they'd want as proof.
show them your PAL is fine.
Applied: 2018
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Kevlar » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:11 pm

ValentineRH wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:36 pm
Hey guys, when do they ask for proof of the restricted/non-restricted firearms license proof?

And specifically, what should I have on hand for when they ask for it as proof?
I have the R/PAL card, and own some firearms... but I don't know what they'd want as proof.
When I got my invite for the interview after completing my OTEE the email stated the following:

Proof of successful completion of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC)

Note: Original documents plus one (1) photocopy required. If cards are submitted as proof, please ensure to provide a photocopy of both sides of each card.
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Applied: 2018/09/28
OTEE: 2018/10 - PASS 95%
INTERVIEW 2018/11 - PASS
Psych Eval / Interview: 2019/04 - PASS
Medical: 2019/05 - PASS
PARE: 2019/11 - PASS
Security Checks: Started 2019/04 - Granted 2019/10
OITP:?
Rigaud:?

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:45 am

Kevlar wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:11 pm
ValentineRH wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:36 pm
Hey guys, when do they ask for proof of the restricted/non-restricted firearms license proof?

And specifically, what should I have on hand for when they ask for it as proof?
I have the R/PAL card, and own some firearms... but I don't know what they'd want as proof.
When I got my invite for the interview after completing my OTEE the email stated the following:

Proof of successful completion of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC)

Note: Original documents plus one (1) photocopy required. If cards are submitted as proof, please ensure to provide a photocopy of both sides of each card.
Holy cow your application process timeline is amazing, I'm jealous! Congratulations mate. :thumbsup:
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CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: Postponed (CoVid-19)
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Zedlinka » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:51 am

A North wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:45 am
Kevlar wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:11 pm
ValentineRH wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:36 pm
Hey guys, when do they ask for proof of the restricted/non-restricted firearms license proof?

And specifically, what should I have on hand for when they ask for it as proof?
I have the R/PAL card, and own some firearms... but I don't know what they'd want as proof.
When I got my invite for the interview after completing my OTEE the email stated the following:

Proof of successful completion of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC)

Note: Original documents plus one (1) photocopy required. If cards are submitted as proof, please ensure to provide a photocopy of both sides of each card.
Holy cow your application process timeline is amazing, I'm jealous! Congratulations mate. :thumbsup:

This is interesting; A North your timeline...

Applied: Dec '18
Contacted: Feb '19
CFSC/CRFSC: Done Already
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt
OTEE: Wrote and Passed Mar '19
Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych Eval: TBD
Medical Eval: TBD
Security Clearance: TBD
Online Training: TBD
Rigaud: TBD


Kevlar's timeline...
CBSA Application:
Applied: 2018/09/28
OTEE: 2018/10/16 - PASS 95%
INTERVIEW 2018/11 - PASS
Psych Eval / Interview: 2019/04/16 - PASS
Medical: 2019/05/01- PASS
Security Checks: Started 2019/04/26 - Granted 2019/10/24
OITP:
Rigaud:

I'm very surprised at one specific difference that I highlighted. Kevlar applied first, but had to do the new testing (OTEE) and A North applied second but was exempt from the GCT2 and WCPT under the old rules (I'm assuming you have a degree) I'm surprised they did it that way.

A North, that could be a reason why yours is taking longer. It's pure speculation, but they tossed you in under the old process pre OTEE (no exemption).

Like I said, pure speculation, but very interesting. To me anyway.
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby A North » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:33 pm

Zedlinka wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:51 am
A North wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:45 am
Kevlar wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:11 pm


When I got my invite for the interview after completing my OTEE the email stated the following:

Proof of successful completion of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC)

Note: Original documents plus one (1) photocopy required. If cards are submitted as proof, please ensure to provide a photocopy of both sides of each card.
Holy cow your application process timeline is amazing, I'm jealous! Congratulations mate. :thumbsup:

This is interesting; A North your timeline...

Applied: Dec '18
Contacted: Feb '19
CFSC/CRFSC: Done Already
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt
OTEE: Wrote and Passed Mar '19
Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych Eval: TBD
Medical Eval: TBD
Security Clearance: TBD
Online Training: TBD
Rigaud: TBD


Kevlar's timeline...
CBSA Application:
Applied: 2018/09/28
OTEE: 2018/10/16 - PASS 95%
INTERVIEW 2018/11 - PASS
Psych Eval / Interview: 2019/04/16 - PASS
Medical: 2019/05/01- PASS
Security Checks: Started 2019/04/26 - Granted 2019/10/24
OITP:
Rigaud:

I'm very surprised at one specific difference that I highlighted. Kevlar applied first, but had to do the new testing (OTEE) and A North applied second but was exempt from the GCT2 and WCPT under the old rules (I'm assuming you have a degree) I'm surprised they did it that way.

A North, that could be a reason why yours is taking longer. It's pure speculation, but they tossed you in under the old process pre OTEE (no exemption).

Like I said, pure speculation, but very interesting. To me anyway.
I didn't know there was an old process and a new process, what did both entail? I completed a college diploma in Police Foundations which is what enabled me to skip the GCT2 and WCPT but I still had to do the OTEE.
CBSA
CFSC/CRFSC: 04/16; Sent 01/20
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt (Police Foundations 06/17)
Applied: 12/18
Contacted: 02/19
OTEE: 03/19
G Licence: 02/20

Interview: Postponed (CoVid-19)
PARE: TBD
Psych: TBD
Medical: TBD
Security: TBD
Online: TBD
Rigaud: TBD

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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Zedlinka » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:03 am

A North wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:33 pm
Zedlinka wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:51 am
A North wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:45 am


Holy cow your application process timeline is amazing, I'm jealous! Congratulations mate. :thumbsup:

This is interesting; A North your timeline...

Applied: Dec '18
Contacted: Feb '19
CFSC/CRFSC: Done Already
GCT2/WCPT: Exempt
OTEE: Wrote and Passed Mar '19
Interview: TBD
PARE: TBD
Psych Eval: TBD
Medical Eval: TBD
Security Clearance: TBD
Online Training: TBD
Rigaud: TBD


Kevlar's timeline...
CBSA Application:
Applied: 2018/09/28
OTEE: 2018/10/16 - PASS 95%
INTERVIEW 2018/11 - PASS
Psych Eval / Interview: 2019/04/16 - PASS
Medical: 2019/05/01- PASS
Security Checks: Started 2019/04/26 - Granted 2019/10/24
OITP:
Rigaud:

I'm very surprised at one specific difference that I highlighted. Kevlar applied first, but had to do the new testing (OTEE) and A North applied second but was exempt from the GCT2 and WCPT under the old rules (I'm assuming you have a degree) I'm surprised they did it that way.

A North, that could be a reason why yours is taking longer. It's pure speculation, but they tossed you in under the old process pre OTEE (no exemption).

Like I said, pure speculation, but very interesting. To me anyway.
I didn't know there was an old process and a new process, what did both entail? I completed a college diploma in Police Foundations which is what enabled me to skip the GCT2 and WCPT but I still had to do the OTEE.
I must not have seen that you'd done the OTEE. In that case ignore what I had said.

They used to not have the OTEE. I only got through because they decied to exempt me from the GCT2 and WCPT. Had they not accepted my degree, I would not be an officer. I had failed both of those tests, and then they changed their requirements to allow for degrees to override those tests, so they threw the marks out and pushed me through anyway. In my opinion, that testing weeds out perfectly good candidates. My scores were awful, but I'd like to think I'm a pretty decent officer.
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Re: Ask the CBSA!

Postby Kevlar » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:32 pm

Thats a good point Zedlinka, however I'll play the devils advocate and say that the same could be said for those with a degree and having zero common sense of streetsmarts/life experience. Ive seen both sides with my decade in the federal prisons. Ive seen people come through on both sides that had no business in a uniform.

Personally, I think everyone should have to write the test. Same test for everyone. Its the fairest way to do it. 10 years of law enforcement experience should always trump a 2 year diploma in an unrelated field but it doesnt. So that way those without the diploma but know a thing or two have the same shot as those with a degree or a diploma. Best person for the job.
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Applied: 2018/09/28
OTEE: 2018/10 - PASS 95%
INTERVIEW 2018/11 - PASS
Psych Eval / Interview: 2019/04 - PASS
Medical: 2019/05 - PASS
PARE: 2019/11 - PASS
Security Checks: Started 2019/04 - Granted 2019/10
OITP:?
Rigaud:?


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