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Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:47 pm
by CourtOfficer
Not immediately, but the association will sit in on all interviews in respect to postings to ensure it is being done fairly. The association will grieve any transfers that aren't done fairly including those that are seen to be "punishments". The association will advocate for a worker when his personal situation is being affected by work. Most importantly, an association can help develop a fair and equitable approach to staffing. In other words, set ground rules and then Police the Force to ensure they follow those rules. I think you'll be surprised at how much power an association has when your Force has to abide by a collective agreement.

CO

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:25 am
by SD_SC1
CourtOfficer wrote:Not immediately, but the association will sit in on all interviews in respect to postings to ensure it is being done fairly. The association will grieve any transfers that aren't done fairly including those that are seen to be "punishments". The association will advocate for a worker when his personal situation is being affected by work. Most importantly, an association can help develop a fair and equitable approach to staffing. In other words, set ground rules and then Police the Force to ensure they follow those rules. I think you'll be surprised at how much power an association has when your Force has to abide by a collective agreement.

CO

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but this association you speak of. Is this the same one that's in place right now? I know the RCMP isn't unionized, and has some sort of an association, but I was under the impression it didn't hold a lot of weight and it's suggestions were merely suggestions. When I hear of collective agreements, it sounds more like a union.

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:05 am
by TMLF
I'm not with the RCMP, but am of the same disposition on the topic as you all have stated...

I don't know why an agency would not aim to accomodate their staff in relation to requested postings.

In my opinion, a happy employee is a productive employee.

Ofcourse, if there is no position for that employee to go to, then that is a different story, but if a position exists, or will exist, then why not put an existing staff member there instead of putting a new employee there? :ponder:

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:46 am
by dataec
hmmmmmm, where to start?

First of all, there seems to be a bit of negativity being displayed on this topic toward the RCMP (.....Mod's please put this is in the PRIVATE/"Restricted access" side of this site!)

I wanted, begged and pleaded with Staffing to go to Northern Saskatchewan (.......now I'm sure you can imagine how long the lineup is to go there but, I was prepared to wait).

..........my posting - Ottawa.

Went to Staffing and told them I would go anywhere in Canada - nothing.

Told them I would go back and do Training all over again and then still go anywhere in Canada. ......nope.

Should have quit - on the spot.

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:31 am
by Painkiller
argyll wrote:My experience is that Staffing is scared that if they bow to one member's request then the floodgates will open and they'll have all the members knocking on their doors. I think I've related before how, when I put my papers in, the Inspector basically said I could go anywhere in the country if I would stay with the RCMP. I said the only place I would be interested in was back to Depot as I didn't feel I had finished my stint there (the reasons which are entirely too long to go into here) but Depot came back and said they were full when friends I had who were still there said they were crying out for corporals, especially ones trained in the CTP. Basically they want to remain in control and not let anyone think they are getting one over on them.



Wow.... there are a LOT of good comments on this topic. Argyll I agree with your above post 100%.

I know I am repeating myself (as well as many other RCMP members). But I will tell you this...... after 12 years in the RCMP, I regret not jumping ship to a municipal service when I had the chance.
If you are a member of the RCMP and have less then 5 years of service.....you should seriously consider "badging over" before you've invested too much time in this outfit.

Get out...... Get out NOW!!

Painkiller

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:55 am
by CourtOfficer
Your RCMP pension went directly into OMERS???

CO

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:41 am
by dataec
argyll wrote:
CourtOfficer wrote:Your RCMP pension went directly into OMERS???

CO


Yup, it bought exactly the same amount of time plus they gave me $500 in cash and $1200 into my RRSP because there was more than they needed.


Well there you go!

If you are in the RCMP, get out. If you want in, go somewhere else.....trust us.

15 years ago I was going to jump ship and didn't. I figured, "....well the RCMP can't get any worse."

yeah..........

As near as I can see, things aren't going to get any better and in fact WILL get worse.

....the seeds of future fuckery have been planted and are coming to fruition.

Back to your question as to why Staffing does what they do.......we've been talking about lateral/non-promotion Transfers.

There is a whole other, much darker aspect, regrading promotions..........

If you're scratching your head about lateral transfers, your head would explode if you knew about Transfers with promotions.

Re: Why Does RCMP Staffing Personel do what they do?

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:24 pm
by Bogomil
Argyll wrote:
gave up my rank (a godsend !)


Thank the good lord for that!!! Your tyrannical behaviour would not have been tolerated.