Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

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Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby szerr » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:00 pm

I was wondering if anyone is using open cases for their handcuffs. I want something a little more low profile for the back. My only concern is obviously your cuffs are now exposed to the elements, anyone have any issues?

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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby NorthernProtector » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:38 am

Wearing your cuffs (or any other piece of equipment) in the middle of your back is a serious health and safety concern and an accident waiting to happen. If you fall on your back durring a scuffle, you could seriously injure your spine.

Any piece of equipment whether it is covered or open needs to be maintained regularily.
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Postby A.T.R. » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:16 am

Your cuffs need to be covered with a proper cuff case and flap.
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Postby meathead1 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:46 am

Having just had spinal surgery on my lower back, I strongly advise against carrying anything on your lower back.
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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby Madeline236 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:39 pm

A.T.R. wrote:Your cuffs need to be covered with a proper cuff case and flap.


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Postby No 20 Year Medal » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:12 pm

+1 for Bianchi Accumold. I bought my own gear some years ago, now we get it issued.
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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby LAWDOG » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:32 pm

I use Bianchi Accumold open top for my second pair of cuffs and have noticed a significant increase in rust on my Black Peerless Cuffs and I am nowhere near the ocean. Sometimes pulling them out causes them to come out of the loaded position.

Covered cases take up more room on your belt and look stupid but they are the best choice for keeping your cuffs protected and in a state of readiness.

And don't put stuff on your back. It is a receipe for disaster.
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Postby IndictableChaser » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:59 am

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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby meathead1 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:51 pm

Rust on handcuffs can be fixed with a good soak in a lubricant like CLP.
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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby SierraSeven » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:52 pm

Directed traffic for six hours in off and on rain with two sets of cuffs in a double cuff pouch. Both cuffs were the same brand and model, although one was nickel plated and the other set the black style of cuffs. Start of shift the next day the black cuffs were rusted to shit and could barely be used.

Regardless of what pouch you use your equipment needs to be maintained. I also only carry two sets of the nickel plated cuffs now as they seem to be more resilient to moisture.

And to reiterate because it can't be said enough times, don't put anything on your back.
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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby KSG » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:57 pm

I'm going to be naive and ask what the problem is with putting cuffs on your back?
I don't imagine it's a weight issue, is it a concern that landing on it would cause an injury, or is it more of a functional issue?
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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby Apollo » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:29 pm

Because americans do it and we arent americans.

Plus they put their batons behind their guns.

When I was a sheriff i had an open case because thats what they issued. Fell out twice. Then got a closed one.

Get holders that close. Baton spray cuffs lights. Harder for ppl to grab and aquire and wont fall out.

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Re: Open Cuff cases and Handcuff care

Postby Ziggy Stardust » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:44 pm

Cuffs should never be placed at the back because it's uncomfortable for public servants who just sit on our asses all day. [/sarcasm]

But seriously, if you were to fall you could seriously injure your back. Personally I like them right up front next to the buckle; easy access with either hand.
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