Tasered on CBC Feb 18

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Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby TPS » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:46 pm

Tasered
Thursday February 18, 2010 at 9 pm on CBC-TV

Repeating: Friday February 19 at 10 pm ET/PT & Sunday February 21 at 10 pm on CBC News Network

Ten years ago, the Taser® was hailed as the defining breakthrough in modern policing – a weapon that would allow police to subdue “even the largest and scariest people on the planet” without engaging in violent confrontation … a 21st century weapon that would temporarily incapacitate 100% of the time, but never kill.

‘Non-lethal’ declared the company’s promotional material in 1999. The company’s word was enough. Police departments embraced the new and promising technology.

A decade later, more than 400 people have died in North America ‘proximal to Taser use.’ That is raising doubts about those early claims. Human Rights groups clamor for more independent research into the weapon and national standards for its use. Newspaper editorials demand the kind of testing that they say was not done those ten years ago. Today the Taser is described as ‘less-lethal’ and capable of causing of injury.


Officers experience being 'tasered'.
There have been other setbacks for the Taser. In Canada, three public inquiries have been called into its use. One has already declared the Taser capable of causing serious injury and even death but, paradoxically, also declared society safer with the weapon in use than without it.

The other two inquiries will report in 2010. But will those inquiries make a difference? In the ten years since Tasers were introduced, the weapon has made its way into police departments in almost 45 countries – some 15,000 forces worldwide. Taser International, the weapon’s American manufacturer, boasts that it is the force option most used by police. Each and every day, some 500 people are tasered.


Woman learns how to shoot a taser.And its use is spreading. In 43 U.S. states, civilians can buy a Taser in retail stores or at sales parties in their own homes.

Tasered takes a comprehensive look at the Taser after ten years. The documentary examines the Taser from within a major Canadian metropolitan police department – the Calgary Police Service (CPS). They have been using Tasers for more than 4 years. And they’ve been keeping what are arguably among the most comprehensive ‘use of force’ statistics in North America since they adopted its use.

We tell the story through the CPS Use-of-Force Officer, Acting Inspector Chris Butler, an internationally recognized expert. Butler is a Master Taser® Instructor, certified by Taser International. He has even published on the topic. He is thoughtful and reasoned. He defends the Taser but is not blind to potential problems. Problems, he says, that can largely be avoided with proper training.

We follow CPS Recruit Class 185 as it undergoes that training. We are there as these soon-to-be officers learn to fire their Tasers – it takes less than an hour. We watch as they line up for what has become a rite of passage in many police forces: to be tasered voluntarily in the back just to experience how it feels.


Officers in Calgary learn how to use tasers.
We show how the probes leave the weapon and embed into a target’s skin. But the slow motion images reveal something else – the little-known, police accountability features built into the weapons: AFIDs – small confetti-like tags – that immediately identify who fired the weapon and the built-in electronic data port that shows how often.

That how often could be the difference between life and death says San Francisco cardiologist and electro-physiologist Dr. Zian Tseng. Tseng says any healthy person can die from even the minimum 5-second jolt of a conducted energy weapon if the shock is directed at the chest and occurs at the most vulnerable point in a heartbeat. But he cautions that prolonged shocking carries significant additional risk because it leads to a buildup of lactic acid that can cause heart failure.

Dr. Christine Hall begs to differ. ‘Excited Delirium’, not the Taser, is the likely explanation for death after tasering. Hall is Canada’s foremost expert on the condition, often cited by coroners and medical examiners to account for deaths for which there is no obvious cause. Many more doctors dismiss it as a convenient excuse for Taser International to explain deaths after tasering.

Dr. Michael Webster is among the skeptics. The police psychologist and former cop is critical of the company that manufactures the weapon. Webster says the company’s propaganda has led to the tasering of sick old men in their hospital beds, jaywalkers and drunks. We will show an abundance of examples of police tasering individuals for traffic violations, for disrespect or simply to save time while making an arrest.

And we visit a Taser Party where the weapons are sold like so much Tupperware. Leigh and Tim McCoy have been selling consumer Tasers in the Atlanta, Georgia area for almost two years now. Taser International says the C2 Model has the same power as the police X-26 with a few important differences. It’s designed to deliver a full 30-second jolt and is capable of being cycled for a full 25 minutes.

That worries Jared Feuer of Amnesty International, USA. Describing the Taser as a “potentially deadly device”, the human rights group’s spokesman also calls the weapon a “potentially perfect domestic abuse tool” because it leaves no marks or scarring. Amnesty International has been lobbying for national standards for Taser use and to stop the selling of the civilian version.

In 2009, a new generation of Taser weaponry® was introduced. The company claims that the devices are safer, pack less of a jolt and self-adjust the current to the lowest effective levels and that the probes diffuse more of the electricity on the skin, not in the muscle tissue.

As of yet no independent testing of these statements is planned.

Tasered is produced, directed and written by Lynn Raineault for CBC’s DOC ZONE. Executive Producers are Matt Gillespie and Joe Novak.
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby idf » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:10 am

Sounds interesting - PVR'ed it!
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby TPS » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:25 am

VanB wrote:Hey, thanks for quoting the whole article, it really added to this thread to have me see the same article twice.


On a side note Mike Webster is a media-whore douche, who has squandered any respect I used to have for him, and if I ever run into him again I'll tell him that to his face.



Oops sorry Van didn't realize it was posted more than once. I don't usually come into this section of the forum, so haven't checked all the threads.... Oh and tape it if you ever run into him....would love to see his reaction :D
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby idf » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:02 am

VanB wrote:
TPS wrote:
VanB wrote:Hey, thanks for quoting the whole article, it really added to this thread to have me see the same article twice.


On a side note Mike Webster is a media-whore douche, who has squandered any respect I used to have for him, and if I ever run into him again I'll tell him that to his face.



Oops sorry Van didn't realize it was posted more than once. I don't usually come into this section of the forum, so haven't checked all the threads.... Oh and tape it if you ever run into him....would love to see his reaction :D


Not you, the person who posted right underneath your post with the article and felt compelled to quote the whole thing in order to tell us that he would be taping it, as though we wouldn't know what it was he would be referring to.

As for Webster, I doubt it would be much of an exchange. He'd probably try to use some of his cheap jedi-mind trick psychology on me and I'd probably call him a hack who's only trying to make a name for himself on the back of flawed logic and shoddy media coverage. At the end of the day he'll still probably be an asshole I used to think was a good guy and I'll still be pissed off about it.



Sorry - VanB- didn't notice it did that - can you find a way to forgive me? :P
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby idf » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:23 am

VanB wrote:
idf wrote:Sorry - VanB- didn't notice it did that - can you find a way to forgive me? :P



A good start might be to edit your original post and pull the whole freaking article out of there... but whatever.


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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby idf » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:05 am

What's the deal? You act like I called your mom a whore and told you I hope you die. It's not like I'm overly torn up about the fact that you don't know the difference between a "quote" button and a "reply" button. If you never bothered to post in this thread again or otherwise change it I probably would never even think about you again beyond this.

Christ, some people take things way to personally.[/quote]

Agree - maybe took it a bit too far :oops:
I guess that the hour is also a factor...
It is edited - have a good night :D
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby Toonces » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:20 am

idf you're still failing at quoting.
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby gotchya » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:44 am

Toonces wrote:idf you're still failing at quoting.

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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby idf » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:09 am

Was quoting so that he knows to which one of his brilliant sentences I was reffering too 88)
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Re: Tasered on CBC Feb 18

Postby Toonces » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:10 am

Look at your post.

See something not right about it? I'll give you a hint: the [quote] is broken.

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