Judge rules shooting justified

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Judge rules shooting justified

Postby Rob » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:24 am

Sat, March 1, 2008
Judge rules shooting justified
Man was coming at cop with knife, inquiry heard
By GLENN KAUTH, SUN MEDIA

Police were justified in shooting Daniel Lippa when he came after them with a knife almost three years ago, a judge has concluded.

A fatality inquiry report released yesterday accepts officers' version of events stating that Lippa, 29, threatened a cop with a knife before police shot him to death in northeast Edmonton on March 11, 2005.

At the time, police were responding to a 911 call from Lippa's estranged wife Leanna.

She testified at the inquiry last year that she fled her apartment near 26 Street and 148 Avenue after her husband threatened to kill her, their son and himself. She believed Lippa had "gone crazy" and was going to do "suicide-by-cop."

Officers arriving on the scene eventually found Lippa outside the building where, according to the judge's conclusions, he refused police orders to drop the knife as he approached Const. Ryan Sparreboom.

It was then that Sparreboom fired his gun to stop what he believed was a threat, causing Lippa to collapse.

A woman in the building who witnessed the incident testified she believed Lippa had his back to the officers, who were following him, when they shot him.

Inquiry Judge E.A. Johnson, however, ruled that while Cyndi Pashko was an "honest" witness, her version of events was wrong.

"She came upon the scene unexpectedly, and had a very brief time to form an impression ...," Johnson wrote in his findings.

Following the shooting, Lippa's relatives raised questions about whether officers had other options besides firing their guns.

In particular, they asked whether the controversial Taser might have defused the threat that Lippa, who had recently separated from his wife, posed.

But citing testimony at the fatality inquiry, Johnson noted police believe the stun gun isn't the right weapon to use when someone is coming after them with a knife.

"If the Taser is deployed and the darts do not hit the subject, the subject is therefore able to continue to advance, and the officer becomes vulnerable," the inquiry report says.

As a result, Johnson made no recommendations to prevent similar deaths. A police investigation, meanwhile, has already cleared the officers of any criminal charges over the shooting.
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Re: Judge rules shooting justified

Postby SPC » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:05 pm

Rob wrote:Sat, March 1, 2008
Judge rules shooting justified
Man was coming at cop with knife, inquiry heard
By GLENN KAUTH, SUN MEDIA

Police were justified in shooting Daniel Lippa when he came after them with a knife almost three years ago, a judge has concluded.

Thank goodness they made that ruling!! No kidding he was justified.


Following the shooting, Lippa's relatives raised questions about whether officers had other options besides firing their guns.

In particular, they asked whether the controversial Taser might have defused the threat that Lippa, who had recently separated from his wife, posed.

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Re: Judge rules shooting justified

Postby Mark S » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:45 pm

Rob wrote:As a result, Johnson made no recommendations to prevent similar deaths.

Wow. I don't think you'd see that in this province. A judge will, and I think is politically bound, to find something that was done wrong, and something, usually many things, to fix it, whether it makes sense or not.

I've got at least one inquest coming up in which I don't think there's anything that can be done, but we'll see what they come up with.
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