Surrey Community Patrol Officers

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby noanykey » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:46 am

I vote you... so I can apply to CVSE.

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Tango5 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:35 am

Lol. Can you imagine??

Mr. Applicant, congratulations, we have made a decision to provide the greatest opportunity to you!

Oh, Mr. Manager, no thank you. I just applied for heck of it, you know, to find out more about it... deal with it!

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Rareform » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:06 pm

Tango5 wrote:Lol. Can you imagine??

Mr. Applicant, congratulations, we have made a decision to provide the greatest opportunity to you!

Oh, Mr. Manager, no thank you. I just applied for heck of it, you know, to find out more about it... deal with it!

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Sure, why not?
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Boxer Dogs » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:32 am

noanykey wrote:
Simplimatics wrote:
noanykey wrote:I did LP for a few months without AST.. Never again.



That sounds like a bad experience. :!:

They didn't expect you to go hands-on did they?


I was bouncing and wanted to branch out with security. Tried LPO.. I wasn't a fan.
Risk of getting stabbed for $12.00 an hour... Pass.


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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby noanykey » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:14 pm

Exactly.

Worse of all, I didn't have cuffs NOR a vest.. and working in some sketchy neighborhoods, plain stupid on my part.
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Rareform » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:13 am

noanykey wrote:Exactly.

Worse of all, I didn't have cuffs NOR a vest.. and working in some sketchy neighborhoods, plain stupid on my part.


LP can be pretty dangerous - organized crime, tough guy shitrats, career thieves, homeless people with diseases, weapons, etc.

Unless they want you to passively arrest people and disengage at the slightest hint of trouble, it's not worth doing without proper PPE, UoF training and cuffs.
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby noanykey » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:26 am

toughguy shitrats.. :thumbsup: :lol:

I am totally stealing that.. thanks Sim!
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Boxer Dogs » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:46 pm

Simplimatics wrote:
noanykey wrote:Exactly.

Worse of all, I didn't have cuffs NOR a vest.. and working in some sketchy neighborhoods, plain stupid on my part.


LP can be pretty dangerous - organized crime, tough guy shitrats, career thieves, homeless people with diseases, weapons, etc.

Unless they want you to passively arrest people and disengage at the slightest hint of trouble, it's not worth doing without proper PPE, UoF training and cuffs.


Agreed. Not worth doing without the proper tools, unless you strictly observe and report and not engage at all.
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Dudley DoRight » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:17 am

Check this video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI8kbYv14Ko[/quote]


Thought it was an episode of Trailer Park Boys.... :)

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Punisher-One » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:25 am

Boxer Dogs wrote:Agreed. Not worth doing without the proper tools, unless you strictly observe and report and not engage at all.


Some companies have arrest quotas. I worked for one such company back in the day. You had to get x number of cases per two week pay period and if you missed enough quotas you would get spoken to. Luckily my territory was not normally in the worst areas and the municipal PD there was extremely fast to respond when I needed them. The manager was also a reasonable person, if you had a reason like "I was alone and these guys were removing tags with knives and the Police were tied up with higher-priority stuff" she wouldn't be upset with you for not engaging.

The best LP job I had was where there were always 3 of us on shift, we had a ton of cameras, we had radios, and we didn't have any arrest quotas. We were still very productive but didn't need to risk ourselves for stats. That was a really fun job.

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Tango5 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:36 pm

Found this on Surrey City web site.

http://www.surrey.ca/files/Community_Patrol_Officer.pdf

Current, group 18 pay grade values on page 58 below.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/ ... eement.pdf
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Rareform » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:07 pm

Tango5 wrote:Found this on Surrey City web site.

http://www.surrey.ca/files/Community_Patrol_Officer.pdf

Current, group 18 pay grade values on page 58 below.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/ ... eement.pdf


Those documents are kinda useful. Guess we'll see what the future holds for this program.
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby DonutMan » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:42 am

Dudley DoRight wrote:Check this video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI8kbYv14Ko


I remember seeing a badge someone and posted on Facebook regarding that video, "Walmart Security - We'll kick your ass real good." :D

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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby Rareform » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:03 am

In case anyone is curious, here is an actual article about the pilot program and the 4 new community patrol officers they hired.

They are described as having "more legal authority than a security guard, but not as much as a regular bylaw officer."

Don't see any UOF tools or stab vests on them and it would seem that based on the article, they will be in problem areas possibly talking/dealing with problem people. Though it stresses they're "just another set of eyes and ears" or whatever.

http://www.thenownewspaper.com/news/370 ... obile=true
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Re: Surrey Community Patrol Officers

Postby IndictableChaser » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:52 am

Simplimatics wrote:In case anyone is curious, here is an actual article about the pilot program and the 4 new community patrol officers they hired.

They are described as having "more legal authority than a security guard, but not as much as a regular bylaw officer."

Don't see any UOF tools or stab vests on them and it would seem that based on the article, they will be in problem areas possibly talking/dealing with problem people. Though it stresses they're "just another set of eyes and ears" or whatever.

http://www.thenownewspaper.com/news/370 ... obile=true


If what I read about Surrey is true I wouldn't want to work in any enforcement capacity without a gun....let alone no baton/cuffs/oc
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