Child Porn ISNT art

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Child Porn ISNT art

Postby tpspastin#9 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:29 am

The initial judge in this issue is a serious seriosu winner. Thank god a presidence wasnt set.

A Toronto photographer who was acquitted of possession of “repulsive” child pornography he amassed as part of an art project was ordered convicted by Ontario’s highest court.

Madam Justice Louise Botham acquitted Robert Katigbak in 2008 after she accepted the 32-year-old’s version that he spent seven years gathering images of children being sexually assaulted.

In an unanimous judgment released Tuesday, the Ontario Court of Appeal quashed that acquittal and replaced it with a conviction for possession of 628 images and 30 video clips of children and babies being sexually assaulted.

Police seized 567 unique images of “real children and real abuse. . .with images of adults, both male and female, engaging in (sexual) activities with children,” the judgment stated.

The judgment by Mr. Justice Robert Blair, Mr. Justice Michael Moldaver and Madam Justice Janet Simmons pointed out that Katigbak told investigators he had been collecting the child porn images for seven years to create his gallery exhibit.

Images of penetration of babies were displayed, the court noted.

“They (pornographic images) are repulsive in the extreme to anyone who cares about children and the protection of children,” the judgment stated.

The appeal court judges sharply criticized Madam Justice Botham, of the Ontario Court of Justice, for mistakenly accepting his defence of artistic merit and freedom of expression.

Few people accused of possessing child pornography will evade convictions by using artistic merit as a shield, the court warned in its judgment. The judges noted Canada’s child pornography laws are among the toughest in the world.

Botham “paid scant attention to society’s interests in ensuring the protection of children from sexual exploitation and abuse,” the judgment stated. Botham never considered the psychological trauma the children depicted in the images suffered.

“Trial judges must take a hard look at the facts when the ‘legitimate purpose’ defence is put forward,” the judgment stated. “Duelling and important societal interests are at stake. (But) the freedom of expression is not absolute.”

The court concurred with Crown counsel Christine Bartlett-Hughes that Katigbak wasn’t an artist fashioning an ambitious project prompting viewers to abhor sexual violence against children. He was simply a relentless child-porn fan when he was arrested at his home and his computer was seized and searched on April 19, 2006.

Katigbak, a psychology graduate, worked at Japan Camera for several years and Pentax Canada before he was laid off.

His goal was to “present the issue of child exploitation and pornography from the perspective of the exploited child,” the judges said. “Collecting child pornography, he said, would allow him to determine what kind of child pornography ‘was out there’ and to explore his own emotional response to viewing the material.”

His collection never qualified for the artistic merit defence, and anyone could see his “expressed purpose or intention was unreasonable,” the judges said.

Sentencing is to be scheduled.
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Postby JayDeeDoubleYou » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:12 pm

Sick fuck. Anyone who has anything to do with child porn should be shot.

His goal was to “present the issue of child exploitation and pornography from the perspective of the exploited child,” the judges said. “Collecting child pornography, he said, would allow him to determine what kind of child pornography ‘was out there’ and to explore his own emotional response to viewing the material.”


I call bullshit. This is NOT the way to do it. Join an anti-child porn group, or volunteer as a councillor/mentor for victims. Don't cater to other pedophiles.
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Postby CourtOfficer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:14 pm

Madame Justice Botham should step down as a Judge. Most children aren't naive enough to buy that story.

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Postby robselantra » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:30 pm

Police seized 567 unique images of “real children and real abuse. . .with images of adults, both male and female, engaging in (sexual) activities with children,” the judgment stated.

Images of penetration of babies were displayed, the court noted.

“They (pornographic images) are repulsive in the extreme to anyone who cares about children and the protection of children,” the judgment stated.


This kind of thing makes me so very upset. What kind of sick mind could create those kinds of photos and videos to begin with, letalone the sick minds that have to go searching for that crap to download. "Penetration of babies" should be words that are NEVER uttered in this world. That kind of sick abuse of humanity should be dealt with so quickly and swiftly that anyone even considering this kind of behaviour be immediately deterred by the stories of those who went before them.

For those of you blessed enough to be a part of the LE community...continue to find and charge these people under the fullness of the law, until the judges can appreciate the seriousness of this crime.
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Postby Hoodwinkle » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:38 pm

As shocking as this is...I find it even more shocking that someone holding a position as a judge, would consider such a ridiculous defense. That says to me that they are either a sick fuck themselves or so gone from normal society that they need to be relieved of duties.
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Postby robselantra » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:44 pm

I am surprised that a Judge would take it to that level with THIS crime. At the same time, given what I have read on here (and elsewhere) about Judges and the Justice System in Ontario and Canada; I am not as surprised as I should be when I hear that a Judge has allowed something like this to slide. :shame:
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Postby wilbertsasso » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:51 pm

The original decision does not surprise me at all. The judiciary in this country is spineless and pathetic. Most of them probably being former defense lawyers themselves I can see how they came to the original decision.

Pedophile sex bugs will never get an ounce of respect from me. They are not human fucking beings if they can continually exploit children. Fuck the Charter of Rights as well for allowing shithead lawyers to come up with some fucking defense like that.
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Postby MS » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:18 pm

I'm still stunned that this decision was ever handed down to start with. Even more stunned that the media wasn't calling for the heads of both the pedofuck, and the Judgeas well. The judge is nearly as guilty as the pedo in my eyes, and should be brought to justice for allowing this travesty to even happen. I sincerely hope she resigns in disgrace, however that isn't really punishment enough! As for the pedo.... hang him from a pole, and let nature take its course.
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Postby JayDeeDoubleYou » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:51 pm

So, according to Botham's logic, the best way to "raise awareness" about murder is to go on a mass killing spree, just so long as you do it somewhat artistically. :banghead:

She should be embarrassed to be a judge, and I sincerely hope she does not have kids of her own, because nobody with kids could possibly condone such terrible things.

Too bad that pedo bastard wasn't trying to raise awareness about something that would have had much more benefit on society...say, suicide?
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Postby recceguy » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:04 pm

Just another example of how out of touch with reality most judges seem to be.

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Postby Punisher-One » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:08 pm

What an absolute gong-show that judge is. Persons in her courtroom should not be forced to use "your honor" or "your worship" because she clearly does not deserve any sort of respect. She should be kicked off the bench permanently.
Unbelievable decision.
Good on the appeals court of reversing that piece of shit decision...now hopefully they follow through with a sentence that makes it worth while.

I've arrested one pedo in my career so far...you want to talk about a case of "show us of a time when you used restraint" that was definitely it.
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Postby danoman » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:58 pm

I was exposed to CP very early into my career with CBSA and at the time my younger sister was twelve years old. It took an extreme amount of restraint to not put the boots to him.
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Postby Haweater » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:26 pm

Nothing surprises me with some judges. Remember the one in Quebec about 10 years ago that gave a reduced sentance to a guy who had been sexually assaulting 13-14 year old girl (family member if I remember) because he had been good enough to do it anally so that she was still a virgin.

Anything with kids - you've given up your right to be treated like a person. Into a cage for the rest of your life. Full stop.
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Postby IMthePheonix » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:28 am

recceguy wrote:How does she sleep at night?

Unfortunately, quite comfortably in a very large house, paid for by you and me.
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Postby TwE@k » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:07 pm

Some people should not be alive..........that is all.
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