How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby dusty » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:04 am

remote wrote:So this is how one becomes a "Super-Ultra-Mega Poobah" on the Blue Line Forums - by continually posting disgraceful comments.
We argue amongst ourselves whether civilians have the discernment and self control to carry a firearm in public, yet some of us can't even resist the urge to fire off pot-shots from a computer keyboard.
Someday in the future this topic will come up again and somebody will say "it's been discussed to death" - but it hasn't. The surface got scratched then the discussion degenerated into what you see below:

Actually it has been discussed to death over the years, and nobody's opinion has changed whatsoever. The other thing that hasn't changed is the fact that the debate is beyond pointless because there will never be any significant support for CCW in this country. It's wishful thinking on the part of a small group of gun enthusiasts.

Fortunately for body armour enthusiasts they can legally wear their kevlar just in case they're caught in driveby shooting in rural canada.

Also, if you want to gain any respect from the police officers you volunteer with as an auxiliary, pay attention to the comments made here regarding dark humour, and don't be so quick to shoot your mouth off without thouroughly looking into what you're commenting on.
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby remote » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:23 am

Apologies to Mr. Jim Street, and Mr. VanB.
dusty wrote:... pay attention to the comments made here regarding dark humour, and don't be so quick to shoot your mouth off ....

Point taken.

Edited - removed dark humour.
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Kopparoo2b » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:38 am

:dubious:

You're weird........
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Gard » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:22 am

I sense an increase in douchery on the board in the last few days.

It's OK because I don't think he'll last long.
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby three-six » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:57 am

Is that your douche sense tingling there, Gard?
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Federal CO » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:03 am

SPC wrote:
Federal CO wrote:What makes you assume I don't understand the "ground game"? I have many many years of martial arts experience and am at a high level. Although I have only practiced one form, ground fighting was surely covered. As far as enterainment value goes though, ground fighting is boring IMO, but I am very confident that others share the same opinion. I have been in countless fights in my past and have almost never been on the ground, and if I was, I was kneeling on the guy in order to get him to comply (outside of my work environment), I am talking civilian stuff


This was while performing work duties as a civilian before my days of being a CO.

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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Federal CO » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:11 am

Jim Street wrote:An escort in and out of certain facilities with a handcuffed and shackled prisoner, who should have zero chance of having a weapon on him because he was just brought out of a prison.


Yeah because I am not concerned about his buddies on the street that may attempt to free him or retaliate in some manner. No we are armed to protect ourselves from the shackled prisoner. No convict in our system has any ties to anybody on the outside, they are all from law abiding social lifestyles. :thumbsup:

I won't even comment on your attempt for a statistic on how many times we have had to shoot. I will just say that it happens. But it's unfortunate, and it does not prove any point. So I am confused on what you are getting at with this...
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Federal CO » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:58 am

meathead1 wrote:kind of makes you sound like a dick.

I cannot believe how much ignorance and profiling is comming from brothers toward myself on a law enforcement forum. I just don't even know where to start...So having a difference in opinion is frowned upon here? I am in no way a gun nut. I have a liscence but don't own a gun. I don't care for them and I don't find my requalifications "exciting" like some of the officers I work with. I support the idea of CCW even knowing it will most likely not happen for a looong time/ if ever Canada. So sorry for voicing my opinion on law abiding citizens maybe preventing themselves from becoming victims. Anyway, I am just about ready to pull the plug on this forum, hope it doesn't come to that. I have not been on as long as the supermegapoobahoverlords etc, but unfortunately it has been long enough to see some of the "true colors" around here. This goes beyond the "thick skinned humour" that is LE. I hope that maybe some day comraderie/brotherhood would mean something in a forum just like this. I visit an american LE forum as well and I rarely see this amount of criticism toward fellow officers. I am done with this thread. I plan on sticking around the forums a little longer and just chalking this experience up with the touchy subject that is this thread.
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Jim Street » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:35 am

Federal CO wrote:I won't even comment on your attempt for a statistic on how many times we have had to shoot. I will just say that it happens. But it's unfortunate, and it does not prove any point. So I am confused on what you are getting at with this...



It does not happen that often, that's obvious.
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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Ottawan » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:48 pm

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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby tpspastin#9 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:53 pm

How does this thread even continue. Seriously an Admin should put this thing down for its own good.

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Re: How arming citizens with guns might cut crime

Postby Jim Street » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:10 pm

Casey Jones wrote:well we all know how little coppers in canada shoot in a year and i'm willing to hazard a guess that it's a minute percentage of a minute percentage of that.


And we are all well aware of the ensuing media coverage country-wide when it does. Can't say I recall too many news stories where a CX shot and killed an inmate. Nor any follow-ups for the subsequent inquests.
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