The videographer seems polite enough and cooperative in the beginning. Though his attitude changes as the police seem to give him attitude. Now I don't agree with the attitude of the video recorder at the end of the footage but I can't help but feel that these police officers are not "serving the public". They seem to be the ones with the attitude and it appears evident as the belittle the videographer.
In today's society video camera's in public hands are increasing. From peronsal experience I know that there is no law that prohibits video taping of anyone on public streets, otherwise there would be no news media.
What is your take on the conduct of the officers? Abuse of authority? Conduct unbecoming? Did the officer assault the videographer when he attempted to grab the camera? Or did you see nothing wrong?
My view is that in today's society with the prevlance of cameras one should always assume they are being video taped and act accordingly, especially those in the public service. I know if I get on I will learn from these videos and always assume someone is recording me.
No this isn't my video.
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He wasn't some average joe out for a walk with who just happened to have his videocamera with him. He was a bandit who hates police, trying to piss them off enough to do or say something unprofessional so he could either sue them or run to their station to complain. You can say what you like about how you'll assume someones always recording you, but you have no idea what its like to have a bandit stick a camera in your face and do his best to rile you up. I'd say the officers handled the situation professionally.
Also, the officer did not assault the idiot when he took the camera, he can check it for officer safety reasons, and don't ask me to elaborate on that.
When I say "not serving the public" it seems that their intent was not to protect the public from a man with a videocamera who has come out to video tape police doing donoughts in a parking lot (which the police don't deny doing) but to intimidate him. I feel that the officers were concerned about what the video person had recorded them doing and for personal reasons rather then the publics safety. I say this based on their actions and their words.
Now this is just my opinion based on what is on the tape. When I first watched it I did not know the attitude the man gave until mid/end of the video. In the beginning he seemed complient and neutrally socialable. The officers words and actions seem to be confrontational. At the end of the video I can see/hear what he says, basically a coward shouting from a distance.
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You're right that in an ideal society no PC would ever mind being being filmed. This is the real world, however, and when people constantly are watching you it can make you a little jumpy. The PC may have been kinda angry, but really, who wouldn't be? As I noted, I didn't really see any evidence of abusing his authority; he didn't seize the camera, hit the guy, etc..
The problem with a lot of these tapes that come out is that they don't show the entire situation, and oftentimes if you only show one part of a police encounter it can look downright bad.
Say, for argument's sake, the officers were doing doughnuts in the parking lot/street. I can understand why they wouldn't want to be filmed. However, would this "concerned citizen" been as interested if it was some kids doing the same in mom's and dad's car? Probably not. IMHO, this guy was just looking to be a shit disturber. From watching this short clip, I tend to believe that he's the same type of person who probably causes some problems in the neighbourhood and has a grudge against cops.
People should try to video tape other professions at work and see how those people feel.
Why would this person be out at that hour? It's not like this guy was awoken by lights and sirens and came out to see what was going on. For all we know, this guy could have been out filming houses or cars to break into at a later date, and someone coming home late saw him out there and thought it was suspicious and called the police.
This guy was acting like a shitrat, so he got treated like a shitrat. Nine times out of ten, if you co-operate with the police, they'll be pretty nice to you, even if you are guilty of something.
devilwoman wrote:Say, for argument's sake, the officers were doing doughnuts in the parking lot/street.
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The winner is prohib. firearms as well. Clearly an upstanding member of the community.
It's obvious he's just trying to provoke the police by filming them, and these ones bite. When the guy refuses to hand over the camera, the officer threatens to arrest his friend for drinking in public but seems to change his mind as to whether he actually saw him on the road with a beer.
I think the guy is within his rights but sort of a loser.
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