Search found 109 matches

by FordAve
Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:24 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

You're confusing me with someone else, I didn't make any reference to who pays for what, but ultimately the liability for the program rests with the Force, they choose not to accept that liability anymore, which is their prerogative. But to address the comments about the remarks from city managers ...
by FordAve
Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:17 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

FordAve. You are not going to win this one. We trained for months. Every day. Even on days off we trained. Eventually we were allowed to wear uniform in public and face the streets. But it wasn't over yet, oh no. We were constantly evaluated by a training officer for months. Unless you're a police ...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

You're confusing me with someone else, I didn't make any reference to who pays for what, but ultimately the liability for the program rests with the Force, they choose not to accept that liability anymore, which is their prerogative. But to address the comments about the remarks from city managers ...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

I don't have a horse in this race, but I have a comment from the perspective of someone who was seriously considering a career change to policing a few years ago and then thought about my local auxiliary as a way to perhaps scratch that itch without giving up my day job. A couple of years ago, a TP...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:27 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

That is absolutely correct and precisely my point. The only fatal incidents in half a century have been all vehicle accidents, with the last one being over a decade ago. Last years wounding of an auxiliary is clearly not part of a documented trend of increasing risk based on the parameters of the o...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:22 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

Could you please some background as to were you have gotten this information? Are you speaking from personal experience or case law to show that you are personally responsible for the actions of an auxiliary constable? Do I really need to explain the consequences of disobeying a lawful order and br...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:51 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

3) Any RM engaging an Aux in anything outside of the very specific prescribed duties that are clearly laid out in policy is accepting not only personal liability for that Auxiliary member should he be injured or killed on duty, but also civil liability for anything that Aux does while doing those o...
by FordAve
Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:42 am
Forum: The Rant
Topic: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes
Replies: 223
Views: 32009

Re: RCMP auxiliary officers furious with proposed changes

From what I have been reading, it appears, unfortunately, that the RCMP has taken the position that keeping A/Cst involved in General Duty, Traffic Services or other uniformed front-line work is too great a liability to continue with. It's fine to say it's due to liability but you need to quantify ...
by FordAve
Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:04 pm
Forum: The Rant
Topic: Ottawa Police Auxiliary Program
Replies: 29
Views: 2271

Re: Ottawa Police Auxiliary Program

Wow. They way some of you talk on this forum, you would think that auxiliaries were getting badly injured or killed every weekend.
by FordAve
Sun May 17, 2009 1:25 pm
Forum: Police Human Resource Management
Topic: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div
Replies: 65
Views: 30117

Re: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div

CO, I think that you need to spend sometime reading some of your own associations reports. It was CPA that associates auxiliary constables with two-tiered policing not me. I have wonder how much of a professional you are if all you can bring to the table is "grow up, bro." Every citzen has...
by FordAve
Wed May 13, 2009 12:13 am
Forum: Police Human Resource Management
Topic: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div
Replies: 65
Views: 30117

Re: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div

[/quote] If the RCMP is able to build the program they will be able to sell themselves as an alternative to more expensive municipal forces. The RCMP has done this numerous times before and the CSO program will make it even easier. And this connects to the Auxiliary program how? As I've said before ...
by FordAve
Tue May 12, 2009 11:59 pm
Forum: Police Human Resource Management
Topic: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div
Replies: 65
Views: 30117

Re: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div

Yep, and thankfully in Ontario they are kept to their intended duties. In our service everything from their duties to the amount of hours they're permitted to volunteer in a day is all governed by the collective agreement. Trust me, this program would NOT fly with an association. Has it been tried?...
by FordAve
Tue May 12, 2009 11:37 pm
Forum: Police Human Resource Management
Topic: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div
Replies: 65
Views: 30117

Re: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div

If their role is so limited that they rendered in-effective then it's both a waste of taxpayers money and volunteers time. It also harms the communities that auxiliaries work in. Then so be it. I pay alot of money to be in an Association and it's an integral part of my employment. I'm not unhappy t...
by FordAve
Tue May 12, 2009 9:26 pm
Forum: The Rant
Topic: Olympics and Security
Replies: 39
Views: 1651

Re: Olympics and Security

Please note this qoute is from the Vanoc website. As they will be supervised by RCMP, I would expect the enhanced security would come from the RCMP. "The V2010 Integrated Security Unit will maintain oversight of security screeners, and the security standards they apply. All private security st...
by FordAve
Tue May 12, 2009 9:17 pm
Forum: Police Human Resource Management
Topic: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div
Replies: 65
Views: 30117

Re: Community Safety Officer- "E" Div

Yep, and thankfully in Ontario they are kept to their intended duties. In our service everything from their duties to the amount of hours they're permitted to volunteer in a day is all governed by the collective agreement. Trust me, this program would NOT fly with an association. Has it been tried?...